There is a very high speed train in Kuala Lumpur between the City Centre Station to the airport the train covers a pretty large distance in a very very short time... sorry dont remember the exact speed or the distance...
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the_380 wrote: There is a very high speed train in Kuala Lumpur between the City Centre Station to the airport the train covers a pretty large distance in a very very short time... sorry dont remember the exact speed or the distance...
The train is known as the KLIA EXPRESS and it covers a distance of approximately 70Km in 28 minutes nonstop to be precise.Its a really smooth train.There is another train called the KLIA TRANSITwhich covers the same distance but in 35 minutes due to 3 Scheduled stops enroute to the Kuala Lumpur "Sentral"(central) Station.Both trains are absolutely comfortable.
From the "typical domestic arriving passenger" point of view, it does seem as though DIAL or whatever they call themselves still don't have a clue.
OK, so your bus from the aircraft is wobbling along, and just at the point where the "bus box" has been made, the tractors pulling the baggage trolleys race past, neatly dissecting the path of movement of disembarking pax. THERE IS A SMALL BARRIER HERE WHICH CAN BE MOVED.
Next, you get off the bus, stroll past the CISF guards (sitting in chairs) and run straight into assorted protocol and VIP reception sorts, who will stand right in the flow. WHY CAN'T A SEPARATE PLACE FOR THEM BE MADE ON THE SIDE, IN FRONT OF THE PROTOCOL LOUNGE?
After this you come to the toilets. THEY SIMPLY NEED TO BE CONTINUOUSLY CLEANED. AND PROVIDED WITH BASIC SOAP FOR HAND WASH AS WELL AS DISPOSABLE HAND TOWELS.
Then you move towards the baggage carousels. SOME SUPER INTELLIGENT PERSON HAS PLACED POTTED PLANTS IN THE SPACE IN THE MIDDLE. AS A RESULT THERE ARE A FEW MILLION FLIES PRESENT NOW.
Thanks to security, we don't have the drivers with their sharp metal boards hanging around anymore. BUT IT IS WORTH NOTING, WHILE YOU AND I CAN NOT TAKE EVEN A NAIL CUTTER INSIDE, THE HOTEL DRIVER BOARDS ARE MADE OF METAL AND CAN EASILY HIDE ANYTHING ANYBODY WANTS.
The pre-paid taxi system is good, but the computerised printout does not generate duplicates. ACTUALLY IT DOES BUT THE CLERKS KEEP IT.
Boarding taxies is slowed down because the Delhi Traffic Police manually notes down the vehicle number and pax name in a register. WHY CAN'T THEY SIMPLY USE A DIGITAL CAMERA LIKE THEY DO IN SO MANY OTHER PLACES NOW?
And as for the parking mess, what do you expect? Everything is blocked off for VIPs, or those who will tip 100/oo rupees to the guards &c&c.
The final screw in the hole-even the zebra crossing from the arrivals area to the parking lot has been painted over! So now there is yet another conflict between cars and buses coming in towards departure 1-B and passengers walking to the parking lot.
The day the management of the airport themselves start experiencing what a passenger experiences is the day things will improve. Till then, same old s--t.
Am taking another flight on 22nd, let me see if they have got rid of the flies by then?
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Both the trains travel at a speed of 160kmph and use a Siemens built trainset.
Gaurav wrote:
The train is known as the KLIA EXPRESS and it covers a distance of approximately 70Km in 28 minutes nonstop to be precise.Its a really smooth train.There is another train called the KLIA TRANSITwhich covers the same distance but in 35 minutes due to 3 Scheduled stops enroute to the Kuala Lumpur "Sentral"(central) Station.Both trains are absolutely comfortable.
Delhi Metro uses trainsets built by ROTEM from South Korea. The deal involved tech. transfer as well and the trainsets are now being built by BEML at Bangalore.
There is a plan on the cards to connect the Delhi Metro to IGI Airport as well. Any updates on the timeline of completion of this project?
Gaurav wrote:
Hey thanks vivekman for the info.The Siemens built trainset are quite good.hey What are the Delhi Metro trains built..
The airport line is suppose to start frm N.Delhi Rly station then touch Connaught Place and then all the way uptill the new common terminal which will be built by GMR with i guess 3-4 stops enroute. The dead line is 2010. Besides this they are also planning to connect Badarpur Border ( Haryana) near Faridabad to Central Secretariat. As the shooting range is very close by..
New Delhi, Aug 22 (PTI) Government is planning a new look for the Indira Gandhi International Airport before the Commonwealth Games in 2010, the Rajya Sabha was informed today.
As per the modernisation plan, the Joint Venture Company (JVC) is required to expand the airside capacity by adding a parallel runway with adequate taxiways for entry/exit, Minister of State for Civil Aviation Praful Patel said in a written reply.
The Joint Venture, he said is also required to construct a new passenger terminal to cater to both domestic and international passengers and provide adequate parking space in addition to improving the access roads to the airport.
Replying to another question, Patel said there was no no proposal to have an airport in Haryana close to Delhi.
He said the Airports Authority of India has not received any such proposal from the Reliance Group which is setting a Mega Special Economic Zone in Haryana.
However, he said there is a plan for construction of new terminal building complex and associated facilities at civil enclave of Chandigarh airport subject to the release of identified land by the Ministry of Defence.
To another question, Patel admitted that many flights are circling for 15 minutes or more, before landing at the Delhi airport. At times during peak hours some flights are required to hold in the air before landing.
The 19.5 km distance between New Delhi railway station and Indira Gandhi International Airport Delhi in a mere 13 minutes by 2010 as the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation plans to run trains on this section at speeds of up to 135-140 km per hour and is expected to be completed ahead of the 2010 Commonwealth Games.check-in facility would be provided to the passengers at New Delhi railway station and Rajiv Chowk stations. After this the next station would be Moti Bagh and from there the train would straightaway reach the common terminal that is being constructed at the IGI Airport. Of the route, 9.7 km would be underground, 5.5 km elevated and 4.3 km would be at grade.
The coaches would also be different from the existing ones as they would have 80 per cent seating capacity. Another difference would be the fare: a flat rate of Rs 100 has been suggested on this corridor which is primarily meant to provide a quick to and fro access to air passengers from the airport .The ultra-modern system would have both Automatic Train Protection (ATP) and Automatic Train Operation (ATO) mechanisms.
New rapid exit taxiways to ease air congestion at Delhi airport
New Delhi, Aug 28 (UNI)
Two new rapid exit taxiways were opened today at Indira Gandhi International (IGI) Airport alongwith final portion of a parallel taxiway for the secondary runway. In addition, a new link taxiway was opened between the primary and secondary runways. As a result, the ground movement of aircraft will have greater flexibility and aircraft will be able to take off without much wait and be able to exit the runway faster clearing the way for the flight behind it. This will reduce waiting times for passengers, said officials at the GMR-DIAL (Delhi International Airport Private Limited). The opening of these taxiways will further improve the handling capacity of the aircraft operations, said a DIAL official. This is part of the ongoing upgradation works of the main and the secondary runway to improve ground traffic circulation. In addition, rapid exit taxiway D1 and a portion of parallel taxiway E2 was commissioned recently alongwith opening up of a second runway for three hours each in morning and afternoon. The work in progress will aim at making the runways capable of 24 hours of simultaneous operation, said the official. DIAL is a joint venture company consisting of GMR Group, Airports Authority of India, Fraport, Malaysia Airports and India Development Fund for the modernisation and restructuring of Delhi airport. The consortium won the mandate to operate, manage and develop Delhi airport through an international competitive bidding process conducted by the government.
NEW DELHI: In a few years, you may be boarding your low-cost flight from a no-frills terminal. Air Deccan MD Captain Gopinath recently made this proposal to the GMR group, which bagged the project of modernising IGI airport and gave the blueprint for a budget terminal.
This concept is already in vogue abroad. For instance, London has the Stanstead terminal exclusively for low cost carriers.
"We have asked GMR to create an exclusive space for low-cost airlines. It should not have any fancy things like an aerobridge that requires an aircraft to be pulled up to the bridge and then towed behind by a trolley for moving on its own,"said Gopinath.
The idea is to have very fast aircraft movement in which planes land; unload; get departing passengers and their baggage on board, and then take off fast.
"We don't want a marble palace. A simple, functional terminal suits low-cost carriers' needs just fine. Because of low fares, our planes can make money only by spending more time in air than on ground,"he said.
The contrast between a terminal for full-cost and no-frills airline can be drawn by comparing the Heathrow and Stanstead airports of London. While Heathrow has exclusive duty-free shopping area, restaurants and several other services, Stanstead has some outlets and coffee shops.
A Delhi Airport spokesperson said: "Air Deccan has made a proposal for a low-cost terminal and we are examining it.
"Sources said the new developers would take a hard look at the traffic flow of low cost carriers and its projections for the next few years before taking a final decision, as low-cost carriers have completely different requirements.
For instance, a low-cost carrier that does not sell edables on its flights, wanted low cost snack counters at IGI.
"We don't sell edables on board due to several reasons like not willing to charge more than the MRP. Passengers should be able to buy packaged food at terminal and then have it in flight,"the official said..
"The economics of a low-cost terminal are totally different from a full-cost one. The feasibility would have to be studied. The ultimate master plan for IGI did envisage a terminal for low-cost carriers but when this would happen is not known,"said a source. There was talk of using the existing terminals for budget airlines, once the new airport is ready. But all these plans are yet to be finalised.
NEW DELHI: After Nagpur and Hyderabad, Delhi may be the next destination which will have its own aircraft maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) facilities. The new airport operator, Delhi International Airport (DIAL), plans to have an independent MRO centre as part of the upgraded airport complex by 10. After freezing its masterplan for Delhi airport, DIAL plans to float a global tender, inviting international players to set up the facilities on a revenue-sharing basis with the airport operator.
A similar route is being taken at GMR Hyderabad International Airport, the new-green field airport set to open its doors in 08. Hyderabad Airport International will soon float a global tender asking for proposals from international MRO service providers in this field.
Apart from line mantainence, modifications, component repairs, the new MRO facilities will have the capacity to take up engine overhaul and heavy checks in both narrow and wide body aircraft. The Hyderabad facility is likely to be ready at the time of commissioning of the airport, sources told ET.
Airline analysts note given the volume of air traffic over Delhi, which has grown by 50% over the last one year, the Capital has the potential to act as an MRO hub for domestic and international carriers in South Asia and South-East Asia. US-based airline major Boeing last month announced setting up of an MRO facility at Nagpur with an investment of around $100million.
When contacted, DIAL officials said it is too early to put a fix at the investment required for setting up the MRO facility at Delhi. However, sources said the start-up investment could be to the tune of Rs 150 crore, which would be increased as heavy maintenance and checks are taken up.
Internationally, MRO facilities are getting outsourced, with US market outsourcing almost 55% of its commercial aircraft MRO work. The global MRO market is currently estimated to be worth around $49bn.
Recently several companies have announced plans to foray into setting up MRO facilities, including Bangalore-based Taneja Aerospace and Aviation and Wadia group in association with Singapore Airlines arm.
Airbus Industries too is supposed to set up training and MRO facilities as part of its offset-agreement with Indian airlines. Most in the industry anticipate that the coming months will see a growing demand for airline technicians and engineers to offer such services.
Here is another update but not on the developments
Mel this sint nice to hear
Fire near Delhi domestic airport, no casualties.
By IANS Wednesday September 13, 01:02 PM
New Delhi, Sep 13 (IANS) A fire broke out in a building near the domestic airport in the capital early Wednesday but there were no casualties, said fire officials.
According to the Delhi Fire Service, the fire started at around 8.00 a.m. in the office of Blue Dart, a leading courier company.
'Two fire engines were sent to the spot and the flames were doused within half an hour. Since it was early morning, there was not much damage,' said a fire official.
The official also clarified that the fire had nothing to do with the airport. 'The fire has no relation with the airport - only the building was across the road,' he added.
NEW DELHI: Come 2008, the two state-owned carriers Air India and Indian Airlines will be operating out of a single airport terminal building in Delhi and Mumbai. Under the Master Plan that is being drafted by the new owners of Delhi and Mumbai airports, the two national carriers are expected to be given a separate terminal replete with upper class lounge, duty-free shops and the works.
"The proposal for a separate but common terminal block for the two national carriers has already been made to the new owners of Delhi and Mumbai airports. The Master Plan for both the airports is under preparation now and is expected to include this proposal," a senior government official said.
The common terminal, the official said, will feature upper class lounge, special duty free area and other facilities that will be available to all other airlines. "The idea is to create a distinct identity for the national carriers. Also, the amount of passenger traffic handled by the two airlines is far higher than the others. So, it makes sense to give them a common, yet separate terminal," the official said.
The final Master Plan is expected to submitted to the government within a few months. The new owners of the two airports are also alongside in talks with international carriers like Continental, British Airways and Lufthansa for setting up separate upper class lounges at the two airports.
"Like all international airports, even Delhi and Mumbai will be home to independent lounges of separate airlines. This will be a clear departure from the present where international airlines have to share lounges run by 5-Star hotel chains," the official said.
Also, the days of long queues to get inside the Delhi airport and the never-ending wait for a flight to take-off are finally numbered. Come 2008, IGI airport in Delhi will have separate terminal space for every airline operating out of the city, and a third parallel runway that will ensure faster take-off and landing for airlines. And all three parallel runways would be capable of handling a fully-loaded Airbus A380, officials said.
"Instead of the present arrangement where airlines jostle with each other for space in one small building, the new airport terminal will have separate areas earmarked for every airline operator. This will ensure that there's enough space for passengers to freely move around. It will also eliminate the queue outside terminal buildings during peak hours," a government official said.
New airport master plan finalised Saurabh Sinha [ 3 Oct, 2006 0948hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]
NEW DELHI: The IGI 'duckling' is all set to transform into a princess. The GMR group, which bagged the project to modernise IGI, has finalised the master plan for the new airport and will submit it to the Centre this week. Once the civil aviation ministry clears the plan, execution will begin early next year.
A new integrated domestic-cum-international airport with a capacity to handle up to 35 million passengers annually near the existing international airport by March 2010 will be built in the Capital.
The Metro links to the new airport would have two stops there like Paris' CDG I and CDG II and the Heathrow stops for its terminal IV and terminals I, II and III.
Prepared by UK-based design consultant Motts Mac-Donald, the master plan proposes a new airport with integrated domestic and international terminals near the existing international airport by March 2010 and an additional runway by 2008.
"This airport would have an annual capacity of 30 to 35 million passengers annually. According to projections, traffic would rise from 16 million in 2005 to about 27 million passengers annually in 2010," said sources.
The terminals would have two Metro stops, just like big airports abroad like Paris, London and New York. The Union civil aviation ministry wants the dedicated CP-IGI line to be ready in time for the Commonwealth Games.
Different partners in the new JV company formed to modernise IGI, Delhi International Airport (P) Ltd (DIAL), would have a separate role in the job.
While GMR group will invest the largest part of the Rs 3,200-crore expansion plan of the first phase (that is till 2010), the Fraport group (which handles Frankfurt airport) would operate the new airport. The Malaysian partners would develop the retail area in the form of huge duty free shopping arcades, said sources.
DIAL is yet to decide the fate of the existing domestic and international terminals. While these congested terminals are getting some cosmetic changes like new tiles and better toilets, the options for them after 2010 are quite limited.
They may be used as lowcost terminals for no frills airlines, a demand raised by the leading low-cost airline Air Deccan recently. "A final decision is yet to be taken," said sources.
There's good news for Air India in the master plan. Its flagship Centaur hotel, owned by a subsidiary company, is not likely to be touched in the phase I development.
Some months back, DIAL had made a presentation to Air India, in which it said that the hotel came in way of the airport expansion plan and may have to be 'relocated'. But it is now safe till the Commonwealth Games at least.
The airport expansion plan in the city would happen in phases. Ultimately, the airport would have a capacity of 80 million by 2025.
"The development of IGI is being tuned to be synchronous with Delhi's master plan. After all there's going to be a huge requirement for basic infrastructure like power, water and roads which would have to be provided for," said a senior government official.
There was some article saying AI/IA will get a common terminal at DEL. Will that be a part of the new terminal being built or a separate terminal building altogether. Ihope its one big terminal like the new BKK or HKG as opposed to small or mid sized multiple terminals.
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