Know something about Air India's policy.

They serve miniatures and restrict it to 2 in Y. But most Air India flight reviews talk of Air India crew assuming every passenger to be a drunk and making liquor flow like the Ganga right through the flight!!  

But, the Air India policy manual on this is hilarious: It seems "the crew can recognise when a passenger is getting out of hand and stop the bar service!!!" Wonder how. Am quoting the Air India PR Manager Jitender Bhargava also when he was releasing the airline policy on air rage. 

 

SQ also has a policy of not more than 180 ml of alcohol in Y. They enforce this on the Chennai-Singapore route as they became very fed of of having to arrange for stretchers at Changi to lift out at least 10 pssngrs who had passed out and puking in the aisle. But much less of this now as there are more IFE options to keep ppl engrossed than get sozzled.  

SQ also is very strict about not allowing children/unaccompanied minors next to those who want bar service.

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Damania, when it was king of the skies many years ago, and then the rest of the private airline gang (Jet, East West) were banned from serving alcohol to passengers after there were well publicised reports of cabin crew commencing bar service even when the plane was climbing and continuing bar service right till almost touchdown. (Damania even had a four course meal service on a secor like Chennai to Banglore that's just about 25 minutes.) Became such an issue and a tamasha in Parliament.

Have an old copy of Sunday magazine with a report and the newspaper clippings of this.     

-- Edited by karatecatman at 23:58, 2006-09-12

like non-smoking flights i yearn for the day they have non-alcohol flights. don't know if you've been on the maa-sin flights of IC, but they're a nightmare! seriously! these guys dont have the ability to handle free booze. its practically a ritual to get the airport security to remove at least one passed out passenger.

From a crew perspective i can tell you that alcohol is a nightmare on flights.

Airbus3xx wrote:

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like non-smoking flights i yearn for the day they have non-alcohol flights. don't know if you've been on the maa-sin flights of IC, but they're a nightmare! seriously! these guys dont have the ability to handle free booze. its practically a ritual to get the airport security to remove at least one passed out passenger.

From a crew perspective i can tell you that alcohol is a nightmare on flights.

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Couldn't agree with you anymore, specially with the MAA SIN MAA sector. FYI, the SQ crew members get an extra day off after doing a MAA-SIN-MAA.

BTW, try flying as a passenger in Y on the BKK-NAG-HYD flights, the mother of all nightmares.

aM

karatecatman wrote:

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JumboJet wrote:

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 Isn't Jitender Bhargava the Director PR

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No longer!!

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Management

MR V. THULASIDAS, Chairman & Managing Director
MRS. M. KACKER, Chief Vigilance Officer & Offg. Executive Director-Security
MR. S. PUNHANI, Director-Finance
MR. AMOD SHARMA, Director-Personnel
MR. V. K. VERMA, Executive Director- Commercial
MR. JITENDER BHARGAVA, Executive Director-Coordination
CAPT. M.K. HATHI, Executive Director-Air Safety
MR S. RANGANATHAN, Executive Director-Ground Services
Mr.D.S.KOHLI, Executive Director-Northern Region
MR V.A. FERREIRA, Executive Director-Inflight Services & Industrial Relations
MR.V.SRIKRISHNAN, Executive Director-Materials Management MRS.S.LALWANI,  Executive Director-Planning & International Relations
CAPT. DEEPAK ANAND, Executive Director-Operations
MR. S. MUKHERJEE, Offg. Executive Director-Corporate Affairs
MR PAUL LAKRA, Offg. Executive Director-Internal Audit & Mumbai
MR. RAJEEV KAPUR, Executive Director-Engineering
MR K.M. UNNI, Executive Director-Engine Overhaul
MR. S. VENKAT, Company Secretary & General Manager-Public Relations
Mr S. PHADKE, General Manager-Information Technology
MR.I.S.VHATKAR,  General Manager-Properties & Facilities
DR (MRS) L.P. NAKHWA, General Manager-Medical Services

What is he coordinating here.........

Source : http://www.airindia.com/page.asp?pageid=192

karatecatman wrote:

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Know something about Air India's policy.

They serve miniatures and restrict it to 2 in Y. But most Air India flight reviews talk of Air India crew assuming every passenger to be a drunk and making liquor flow like the Ganga right through the flight!!  

But, the Air India policy manual on this is hilarious: It seems "the crew can recognise when a passenger is getting out of hand and stop the bar service!!!" Wonder how.  

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I have something to say:

Forget Y class even in the J and F class of AI i have heard a hundred cases where crew tel the pax that drinks are over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So i cant even imagine AI crews allowing drinks to flow like the Ganga

P.S. Please feel free to comment

-- Edited by the_380 at 18:28, 2006-09-13

I can't imagine how folks manage to get enough quantity of alcohol to get drunk on a (non AI/IC) flight. Most times flying say LH or SQ or TG, they literally splash what might be 10 or 20 ml into the glass that's already topped up with ice. When asking for a second drink - delivery takes a while.

My experience on AI/IC (admittedly only 1-2 times on each) has been quite different. On AI, the FA handed me a glass half full of whisky, with only a little bit of ice, and a separate can of soda. Similar experience with IC - where I think they use the miniatures, I was able to ask for anther one, and the FA happily gave me another 2 right there. The general attitude was "we're happy to serve you, and we're happier to serve you everything at one shot so you don't call us back"! So I can definitely say my experiences with AI/IC were excellent on this aspect , and that yes, it does flow like the Ganga on these carriers.

I'm yet to fly Indian private carriers Long haul - like 9W/S2 etc. would certainly be interesting to note their attitude.

Have experienced the descriptions from 3 onwards.

About 4. in particular. This was someone next to me who freaked out on the alcohol on a night flight of 8 hours. He was also high on dope with dilated pupils. Alerted the cabin crew when he was in distress (also noticed by a purser in all that dim lighting) at around 2 am and then medical assistance was called for. Flight had 9 medical specialists, all returning from an international conference. Rest of the flight till landing was high drama as a medical report was prepared. All 9 docs coordinated with cabin crew. Doctor's kit was used, with an injection and oxygen being given. Commander was also called, and was quite tense, as he was advised to divert if necessary. 

     

1 and 2. .... Just lost for words!

Crew320, to think all this happened to you!  

                                                  

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But how about this!!! A few years ago, an RJD MLA repeatedly spitting paan in the aisle of an IA A320 from Patna to Delhi.

-- Edited by karatecatman at 01:02, 2006-09-14

Feels very nice to hear a captain say something that supportive, gotta say, am just not used to something like this...

Will definately keep your thoughts in mind for the next time

Regards,

aM

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Crew320 ur comments on this one:-

I have standing instructions to the cabin crew, if you suspect someone's going to get drunk beyond control, ring us in, we turn the seat belt sign on and climb into some really nice weather (which is plenty over the indian ocean) to shake the hell out for a bit and then hold all service

That's my way of getting back at those who create mayhem! Don't get mad, get even.

Sorry about the other folks who i trouble thanks to some jerks, but hell, i've had enough.

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In that case the next time when i fly i ll ask the crew to serve me when seat-belt sign is on