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             U.S. plane bound for Mumbai turned back to Amsterdam


AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Two Dutch fighter planes accompanied a U.S. Northwest Airlines plane bound for Mumbai back to Amsterdam's Schiphol airport on Wednesday, officials said.


A Dutch air traffic control spokeswoman said the plane was in German airspace when it turned back. A spokeswoman for Schiphol said the pilot had taken the decision to turn back but could give no further details.


Security has been increased at airports worldwide after British police said on Aug. 10 they had foiled a plot to blow up planes in the mid-Atlantic using liquid explosives disguised as drinks.


Dutch news agency ANP quoted police as saying a number of people had been taken off the Northwest plane and were being questioned.


Northwest Airlines said the plane was bound for Mumbai, but declined to comment further. Schiphol airport's website listed the NW0042 flight to Mumbai as cancelled.


Last month serial bomb blasts hit packed commuter trains in Mumbai, killing more than 180 people. Indian police said on Tuesday they had foiled another possible attack in the city after they shot dead a suspected Pakistani national.


Dutch police were not immediately available to comment. A spokewoman for Dutch counter-terrorism said the security alert had not been changed at Schiphol airport at midday on Wednesday.



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NWA website also shows NW 42 cancelled due to security reasons.Well it was N234NW which was operating that flight.

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Hey Unconfirmed reports say that Dutch police have arrested 11-12 pax.Any updates?


What happened exactly inflight?any clues!!



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http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2951400/


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             U.S. plane bound for Mumbai turned back to Amsterdam




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Here it is,Aseemji:


http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/08/23/schiphol/index.html


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5278092.stm


 


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CNN-IBN said two Dutch F-16s escorted the plane back to AMS after pilot declared security emergency after some pax acted suspiciously



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http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/15344023.htm
Passenger describes scene aboard diverted plane

By Greg Gordon


McClatchy Newspapers


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WASHINGTON - A Northwest Airlines plane flying from Amsterdam to India was escorted back to the airport by Dutch F-16 fighter jets Wednesday, and police arrested 12 passengers whose behavior had aroused the crew's suspicion.


Coincidentally, among the 149 passengers aboard Northwest Flight NO0042 was the tipster who first alerted the FBI to al-Qaida operative Zacarias Moussaoui's odd behavior at a Minneapolis-area flight school five years ago.


Tim Nelson, who was seated in the forward business-class section, said by phone from Amsterdam that he watched the plane dump fuel as it circled back toward the airport, while several federal air marshals appeared in the front of the cabin, hanging their badges around their necks to keep order.


"It was tense," Nelson said, but he said the marshals never flashed weapons. He praised the marshals and flight crew for doing "an outstanding job."


Nelson said it remained unclear whether the flight crew was responding to a serious terrorist incident or "it was just a misunderstanding, where you had unsophisticated people flying."


U.S. government officials, who requested anonymity, said crew members and air marshals observed the passengers in the rear of the wide-bodied DC-10 trying to use cell phones and passing them around during and shortly after takeoff from Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam. Cell phone use is barred on both U.S. and international flights. Some of the passengers also were trying to change seats, they said.


The Dutch Defense Ministry said that while the plane was over German airspace just after takeoff, the pilot radioed for permission to return to Schiphol and asked for an escort of jet fighters, the Associated Press reported. It said two F-16s scrambled from a northern military airfield, and routine security measures were swiftly put in place.


Nelson and a fellow flight-school program manager have been hailed as heroes for their phone calls that led to Moussaoui's Aug. 16, 2001, arrest and brought the FBI tantalizingly close to uncovering the Sept. 11 terror plot.


Moussaoui pleaded guilty to six conspiracy counts in 2005 and, after a jury narrowly spared him the death penalty last spring, is serving a life sentence without the possibility of release from a "supermax" prison in Colorado.


Dutch police spokesman Rob Staenacker told the AP that he couldn't disclose the nationalities of those arrested Wednesday or the nature of the suspicions against them. Nelson said he watched Dutch police come aboard in threes and escort a dozen men, 10 of them appearing to be of Pakistani or Middle Eastern descent, from the plane one by one in a remote parking area at the airport.


"Some they handcuffed before they took them out," he said. "One guy was a white guy, with a tie-dyed shirt, a beard and dreadlocks. He looked like a hippie. There was an older man who appeared to be of Indian descent."


A few of the others had beards, and some were dressed in shalwar kameez - traditional long shirts and baggy pants, Nelson said.


The incident was the latest of several terror alerts and flight diversions in the two weeks since British police shut down an alleged Islamic plot to smuggle liquid explosives aboard aircraft and detonate them, possibly with cell phones.


Nelson said he was with a flight crew for a Northwest subsidiary, Classic Aviation, en route to Bombay, India, to ferry a plane with a mechanical problem back to an Amsterdam repair facility.


About 15 minutes into the flight, he said, members of the cabin crew hurried past him and stood in the front of the cabin, pointing to the rear.


Nelson said the lead flight attendant then made an announcement over the plane's broadcast system advising everyone to remain in his or her seats.


"They needed to get a head count. People were moving around in the back, and they needed to get back in their proper seats," Nelson said.


Then the flight attendant made a second announcement, saying that something was going on and that air marshals were aboard.


Nelson said several marshals stood near him at the front of the cabin, but he couldn't see what was going on behind him. Nelson said he and his fellow crewmembers advised flight attendants that they were available to help if needed, but that was unnecessary because everyone remained calm.



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News says that 12 pax have been detained but no onformation on allegatiions on them has been clear.... Is this some joke by the Dutch or what?

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Just heard on news that all the 12 people who were detained have been released.

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What was the allegation on them by the way

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Although the heightened security concern is understandable, imagine how much this incident would have cost Northwest & Schiphol!!


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Just heard on news that all the 12 people who were detained have been released.




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Allegations were not listening to the FA to Fasten Seat belts & using the Cellphones.


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Latest news is they have released the lot, must be some young traders from interior india.

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www.uninews.com


Northwest Airlines flight arrives in Mumbai


Mumbai, Aug 24 (UNI)


Passengers aboard the Northwest Airlines flight 42, which was turned back to Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport yesterday owing to ‘‘worrying passenger behaviour’’, arrived here late tonight.


Few passengers were brought here via Singapore in a Jet Airways flight while others arrived in the original Northwest Airlines flight 42 around 23:10 hours, almost 24 hours behind schedule.


Karan Singh, a 19-year-old who studies in Canada, was among those to arrive here in the Jet Airways flight.


While speaking to UNI, Karan said he had seen nothing amiss in the Northwest Airlines flight as he was occupying the back seat and was sleeping.


However, when they reached Amsterdam, they realised that there was something amiss, Karan said. He was unsure as to how many passengers from the Northwest Airlines flight were brought back to Mumbai tonight in the Jet Airways plane. ‘‘There were seven to eleven,’’ he said.


They were taken to Singapore from where they boarded the Jet Airways flight for Mumbai, he said.


Jagatpal Singh was among those to arrive in the Northwest Airlines flight 42 which arrived a little later than the Jet Airways plane. Mr Singh said he had also not noticed anything amiss but the twelve passengers, who were detained, were wearing ethnic dresses, he said.



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10 of those arrested were from MumbaiAdd to Clippings
[ 25 Aug, 2006 0100hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK & AGENCIES ]
AMSTERDAM/MUMBAI/NEW DELHI: Ten Bohra Muslims, out of the 12 held by Dutch security men, have Mumbai addresses, one of them is from Bahraich district in UP, while another is an Indian, with a Bahrain address.

The oldest among them is 49, while the youngest is 24.


According to a US official, the plane turned back after crew members and air marshals saw the passengers trying to use mobiles and were passing the phones among themselves while the airliner was taking off.

He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the subject. "It was behaviour that average passengers wouldn’t do," the official said.


 


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Get ready for the Media piling up  at the Airport on their return & telecast for a week


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Interesting reactions


http://o3.indiatimes.com/mytimes/archive/2006/08/25/1376553.aspx



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here is what the 12 blokes have to say.  I'd say not their fault, and days of enjoying a flight are over.  In fact, we all should take a cue from their experiences


“We were exhausted by the time we boarded at Schiphol,” said Imran Yusuf. “We had gone to attend two events in Trinidad and Tobago, and the return involved flying three legs,” his brother Salman said.


Ayub Kolsawala explained the group had already flown over 10 hours to reach Schiphol. “We took a 20-minute flight from Port of Spain to Tobago, and then flew 10 hours from Tobago to Amsterdam.”


On the flight to Mumbai, the group had seats in the second-last row, and the last row was almost empty. “Some of us decided to sleep,” said Shaqeel Usman Chhotani. “It's not true that we didn't fasten our seatbelts. We did.” Others in the group wanted to chat, however, so they traded places, and “there was some movement,” said Salman.


“Two of my friends who wanted to sleep gave me their cellphones,” said Abdul Qadir Champalwala. “One of us wanted to use the laptop, so we gave him the machine. Some of us were talking. We had no idea all of this was being watched with suspicion.”


“Once the flight landed, three sky marshals escorted us out, handcuffed us and took us into the airport,” Chhotani said. “We were made to sit separately and asked not to talk. Our phones and the laptop were seized. We kept asking them what was wrong; the answer was ‘Keep quiet’,” said Farooq Hasham, Imran's father-in-law. Forty-five minutes later, they were taken to “isolated cells”.


“Over the next two days, we were questioned — though not tortured,” Chhotani said. “It was very difficult.”


Their cellphones have still not been returned. “It was a misunderstanding that cost us our freedom temporarily,” said Champalwala. “We’ve learnt a lesson and will be more careful now.”



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Why were they not allowed a call to their Families.


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