Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Flickr Photo Pool -> Airliners-India -> Civil Aviation -> IC A320 aircraft and moped accident-1994
Post Info TOPIC: IC A320 aircraft and moped accident-1994
VictorTango


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 78
Date:
IC A320 aircraft and moped accident-1994
Permalink Closed

Found this on the DGCA website. Makes interesting reading. I've heard about this incident earlier. Apparently a man on a moped was attempting to ride accross the runway when the aircraft was completing its landing roll. Needless to say he was killed. IIRC I was told that his body was sucked into one of the engines, though the accident report doesn't mention so. However this line "The moped rider died on the spot and his body was fragmented into pieces and scattered all over the runway." kind of indicates that he could have been sucked in. Now my question...some MX guys or pilots should be able to answer this...Aren't the engines set to idle on touchdown? If yes, is the engine powerful enough to suck a human in, when in idle mode? My own personal experiences say an engine in idle mode is not powerful enough unless your real close.


Strangely no damage to aircraft frame??


AIRLINE OPERATION - 1


1. AIRCRAFT :


Type : A-320


Registration : VT-EPM


2. DATE AND TIME : 17.12.1994


3. LOCATION : Hyderabad


4. TYPE OF OPERATION : Scheduled


5. PERSONS ON BOARD : 144


6. INJURY INDEX : Fatal Serious Minor/None


Crew Nil Nil Nil


Pax Nil Nil Nil


Others 1 Nil Nil


7. DAMAGE TO AIRCRAFT : Nil


8. PILOT-IN-COMMAND : Licence : ALTP


Age : 44 Years


Total Hrs : 9600


SUMMARY


Indian Airlines A-320 aircraft VT-EPM was operating a scheduled flight from Madras to Hyderabad on


17.12.1994. The aircraft was under the command of Capt. C.J. Bhoopal with Capt. Sree Nair as First


Officer. In all there were 144 persons on board the aircraft. After reaching over Hyderabad airfield,


the aircraft did normal descent and was cleared for VOR DME approach for Runway 09. After


touchdown when the aircraft was rolling, it was hit by an unauthorised outsider on moped, who was


attempting to cross the runway. The aircraft continued rolling with normal braking. The moped rider


died on the spot and his body was fragmented into pieces and scattered all over the runway. Aircraft


sustained slight damage.


The probable cause of the accident has been attributed to :


"Accident was caused when an unauthorised person on a moped attempted to cross the runway and


was hit to death by an aircraft during its landing roll.


Negligent manning of NAA Gate No. 4 by the chokidar on duty was a contributory factor to the


accident".


Factor : Miscellaneous Personnel


Source: http://dgca.nic.in/aircraft/acc-ind.htm (year 1994)


Olly



-- Edited by VictorTango at 18:10, 2006-07-25

__________________
karatecatman


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 2289
Date:
Permalink Closed

A sqn leader in the IAF insisted that this can never happen.


Had a heated argument with him about such an incident.



__________________
KCM
karatecatman


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 2289
Date:
Permalink Closed

IA has had a number of incidents like these.


In an airport in North India an IA A320 once hit a bull that was loitering on the runway.


Chennai has seen a few incidents with stray dogs. Part of the runway divides a road connecting a village.


And Thiruvananthapuram once had this. No exaggeration.


AAI Jeep was on runway patrol when it couldn't get off the main runway in time. Was a real narrow escape as it was between engines three and four of a landing Air India 747-400 from Jeddah (Jeddah-Riyadh-Thiruvananthapuram).



-- Edited by karatecatman at 17:58, 2006-07-25

__________________
KCM
ABN397


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 80
Date:
Permalink Closed


karatecatman wrote:
IA has had a number of incidents like these.
In an airport in North India an IA A320 once hit a bull that was loitering on the runway.


An equally weird incident occurred some time in the 1980s (maybe in the South)
A tyre from an aircraft taking off fell off and rolled at high speed hitting a jeep somewhere on the runway. It was dark and the occupants didn't see what hit them. They reported that they were attacked by a bull.

__________________
tayara mechanici


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 312
Date:
Permalink Closed

There is a danger zone around the engine at idle power, you can see its marked on side of the cowls. While taxing the aircraft would have been higher than ground idle power and depending on the phase of landing roll could be at flight idle which is higher power setting than grd. There is a statement in the report ''a/c continued to taxi with normal braking'' suggesting that it could have happened with the Full REV THRUST deployed, crew subsequently would have stowed the reversers. Well, you don't use reversers while taxing.


So to cut a long story short, yes suction zone of a A320 or B737 is about a radius of 6-8ft around the engine at Idle power. The man would have had traumatic wounds. The engine in all practicality would have stalled, had the crew not shut it down due high vibration from FOD (foreign object damage). I had read about a similar accident in moscow involving a Mechanic on head-set during grd Engine runs, the a/c was a B737.


http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0480115&size=L&width=1024&height=732&sok=&photo_nr=36&prev_id=0270204&next_id=0058269


If you look closely there is a red stripe painted fwd of the deployed reverser, that is the danger marking.



-- Edited by tayara mechanici at 20:34, 2006-07-25

__________________
tayara mechanici


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 312
Date:
Permalink Closed

karatecatman wrote:

A sqn leader in the IAF insisted that this can never happen.

There is video of a Engine grd run on an aircraft carrier. The a/c is a F-18 i guess, you can see the headset man being sucked in and the engine stalling with a loud banging surge, flame and all. The bloke survives with head injuries, he was saved by his helmet.


You might be able to search for the video online.


Cheers.



-- Edited by tayara mechanici at 20:40, 2006-07-25

__________________
the_380


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 2450
Date:
Permalink Closed

Hey thats kind of amusing...bull, jeep


My dad was on an A319 from BOM-Nagppur and when they were landing a fox came on the runway and though the pilot made a go-around the fox died maybe due to the shock


They landed in the second time



__________________
Light travels faster than sound...thats why people appear bright, until you hear them talk!
HAWK21M


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 1632
Date:
Permalink Closed

Hazard Zones Around the Engines are Respected at all times.


On the B757 its 5 ft at Idle & 13ft at High power from the Inlet.The Exhaust is another story.


regds


MEL



__________________
Think of the Brighter Side !!!
malik


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 168
Date:
Permalink Closed

HAWK21M wrote:

Hazard Zones Around the Engines are Respected at all times. On the B757 its 5 ft at Idle & 13ft at High power from the Inlet.The Exhaust is another story. regds MEL

 


Saw your beautiful 757/VT-BDJ parked at DEL earlier today shining in the post-rain sun. Better warn all those even lovelier storks and other big birds to stay more than 5 or 13 feet away,now that they have taken up residence in the wetlands inside Palam.



__________________
Starboard Side emergency reclining window please, thank you, and the lounge card, if you don't mind?
ABN397


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 80
Date:
Permalink Closed


Birds can be dangerous-the IAF still loses a few planes to bird hits. There have been a couple of major crashes in the propeller era in the US due to flocks of birds.
In around 1960 a vulture hit the cockpit of a DC-3 near Amritsar, killeng the pilot. The co-pilot was able to land without further casualties.

__________________
Boeing7xx


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 104
Date:
Permalink Closed

If this happened during landing, the chances are that the guy got hit on the side of the engine where the thrust is the highest due to the reverser being deployed.


 


BTW SreeNair is now in command.



__________________
HAWK21M


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 1632
Date:
Permalink Closed

I hope you clicked a few Pics of the B752SF.


Bird Hits are more Detrimental on Low Bypass Engines,as the Core can be damaged.


regds


MEL



__________________
Think of the Brighter Side !!!
VictorTango


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 78
Date:
Permalink Closed

tayara mechanici wrote:

 There is video of a Engine grd run on an aircraft carrier. The a/c is a F-18 i guess, you can see the headset man being sucked in and the engine stalling with a loud banging surge, flame and all. The bloke survives with head injuries, he was saved by his helmet. You might be able to search for the video online.

I've seen this video earlier.


Olly



__________________
karatecatman


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 2289
Date:
Permalink Closed

Was a highlight in NDTV. When Pranoy Roy used to air in DD as the World Today.

__________________
KCM
the_380


Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 2450
Date:
Permalink Closed

Any links i want to see that too


rgds


the_380



__________________
Light travels faster than sound...thats why people appear bright, until you hear them talk!
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.
Flickr Photo Pool -> Airliners-India -> Civil Aviation -> IC A320 aircraft and moped accident-1994
Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse 		Powered by ActiveBoard