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few months ago aviation minister praful patel gave a statement that IC's aging B737 fleet shall be converted into freighters


any updated news on that



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Five 737s are headed for cargo conversion. This should be around end 2006 or mid-2007.


The plan was that once the five A319s have arrived (and they have), this would start.


A reason for the delay is over the AI-IA merger proposal. Alliance is supposed to be merged with Air India Express. That has to be sorted out first.     



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Any Idea Where the STC will be Done.


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According to what Praful Patel said, IA proposes to convert five B-737 aircraft at an average conversion cost of approximately USD 1.5 million per aircraft. Using Nagpur as a hub, flights will be to Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai (via Bangalore & Hyderabad) as originating stations. These will be a dedicated cargo service during night.


STC may be at Israel Aircraft Industries.  


 



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According to what Praful Patel said, IA proposes to convert five B-737 aircraft at an average conversion cost of approximately USD 1.5 million per aircraft. Using Nagpur as a hub, flights will be to Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai (via Bangalore & Hyderabad) as originating stations. These will be a dedicated cargo service during night.
STC may be at Israel Aircraft Industries.  
 




Reminds of the night courier service run by Vayudoot back in the 1980s.

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Something has to be done about the engines. It's very very scary -- the sound that is.


People will either think that something is going to explode or crash or that the Pakistan Air Force has managed to get across the border.  



-- Edited by karatecatman at 18:36, 2006-06-14

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You bet.


Last Sunday, Anuj and I were at our planespotting joint when an Alliance Air B732 was taking off. When the pilots fired up the engines for take off, the sound was such that all present there (the junta who were planespotting) had to cover their ears! Would have given a Sukhoi-30MKI a run for its money


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Something has to be done about the engines. It's very very scary -- the sound that is.



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Can't they retrofit the existing aircraft with modern engines? Is there any challenge (electrical, systems, hard pods on the wing, etc) in doing so?


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Something has to be done about the engines.



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Yes.


Any difficulty?


Considering the 737 is such a low plane, can't the 737-300 engines go on it?


There must be a prob, otherwise quite a few would have opted for it I guess.  


 


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Talking abt the noise, when the Alliance Air flight landed in Chennai and taxied in, ground staff of the other airlines quickly ran to get their ear plugs. But it's an impressive sound. The real sound of a plane engine.     


Taking off is different.   



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People will either think that something is going to explode or crash or that the Pakistan Air Force has managed to get across the border.


hehehe...good one


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Any difficulty?Considering the 737 is such a low plane, can't the 737-300 engines go on it?There must be a prob, otherwise quite a few would have opted for it I guess.  


well there will be a solution but may be expensive maybe Boeing might have to send its research team and as the aircrafts are already quite old its no point in investing so much



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well there will be a solution but may be expensive maybe Boeing might have to send its research team and as the aircrafts are already quite old its no point in investing so much




Retrofitting is big business in aviation. Age not really an issue. 



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but IC doesnt have enough funds especially after 43 Airbus on orders


till IC gets its IPOs no more developements


i doubt if they ll even convert those aircrafts cos it ll cost a lot



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but IC doesnt have enough funds especially after 43 Airbus on orders till IC gets its IPOs no more developements i doubt if they ll even convert those aircrafts cos it ll cost a lot


IA Cargo with dedicated aircraft. It's another Praful Patel project. He wants to have the main cargo station at Nagpur.  


IPO should be a joint one with AI. The talk of merger ... only for the sake of the IPO. Let's watch.    



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The JT8D replacements on the B732 was considered until the B733/4/5 with CFM56 were developed.


It was not considered Economically viable Project thereafter.


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http://www.business-standard.com/compindustry/storypage.php?leftnm=1&subLeft=1&chklogin=N&autono=100928&tab=r
IA to convert 5 B-737 into cargo planes
 
P R Sanjai / Mumbai August 09, 2006
 
 
 
Eyeing at a bigger cargo pie, state-owned Indian Airlines is planning to convert its five passenger aircraft into freighter aircraft and has short-listed three global majors for conversion of these aircraft. 
 
Indian Airlines is to convert five Boeing B-737 aircraft, which is currently operated by its subsidiary Alliance Air. 
 
“We have short-listed three overseas companies for conversion of passenger aircraft into freighter ones. The mandate for this will be awarded soon,” Indian Airlines Director (Commercial) Anita Khurana told Business Standard. 
 
Khurana said the average cost of converting one aircraft into freighter is at Rs 8 crore, taking total investment on conversion to Rs 40 crore. 
 
Sources said the airline will have to invest more in Nagpur airport, which will be the hub of Indian Airlines operations. 
 
Indian Airlines has firmed up plans to operate these freighter services with Nagpur as a hub and Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai (via Bangalore and Hyderabad) as originating stations. 
 
“With the operation of freighters, Indian Airlines would be able to expand its cargo business and also offer dedicated cargo service during the night time. Later, the cargo division will also connect smaller cities,” sources said. 
 
Khurana said the airline has created huge IT infrastructure to trace and track cargo with facilitating bar code for all cargo. 
 
Sources said the airline is also exploring converting its subsidiary Alliance Air into an Express Division. 
 
“The strategy for Alliance Air has not been yet finalised. We are exploring options of converting into an dedicated cargo division or reinventing the airline into new avatar keeping proposed merger with Air-India into consideration,” sources added. 


 


 


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Domestic Competition finally


IAI can do the Mod in 3 months.BTW I heard that even  HAL has an Approval for B737 freighter  mod,but has never done any yet.


Check the link.


http://www.hal-india.com/


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So Indian may be their first bakra

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Unlikely.


I would think IAI.


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Some details in the interview with Vishwapathi Trivedi, IA MD (Aug 11) in the "Opinion, analysis, Interview section". 

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Yes, converting old B-737-200 into freighters is one grand idea, but where will they find the pilots to fly them? And also, what will the economics be like?

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