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HAWK21M wrote:



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Who wud want to buy such an old fleet?





The Mig29 & Su30MKIs arn't old.


http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Aircraft/Specs/index.html


We have a Fantastic Fighting force.One of the best.Believe me Im not being partial.


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-- Edited by HAWK21M at 22:14, 2006-10-03

-- Edited by HAWK21M at 22:14, 2006-10-03




Now i am a bit confused.....


What all are we selling



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The Mig29 & Su30MKIs arn't old.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Aircraft/Specs/index.html


We have a Fantastic Fighting force.One of the best.Believe me Im not being partial.


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Not the matter of partiality and i didn't mean the Sukhois and MiG-29s but what abt the -21s -23s -25s(they're going out now) and even -27s?


Would any country buy these except if they're to be kept in a museum



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I guess the current trend is to Improve the Quality of the AF.There would be more purchases soon.


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Purchases definately have to be made because we have a aging fleet of -21s -23s and -27s. They have to be replaced but according to all the press releases we have seen the F-16s and F-18s reamin in the top choices also evaluating the options offered by EU we have Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon

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Unless theres a No Sanctions assurance.We should go for those countries Jets ie Russian & French.The Su30MKI beats the best on offer.But dependin on the role required,The IAF has to decide.


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Hey Fellas,

Pardon my ignorance. But exactly how would our airforce compare with foriegn power, ie Pak, China, US, UK, Israel etc?

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Hey Fellas,

Pardon my ignorance. But exactly how would our airforce compare with foriegn power, ie Pak, China, US, UK, Israel etc?

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this wud be a very debative topic...


however my perception


we are nowhere compared to US, UK n Israel


China is stronger interms of total fleet.


Pak is equally stronger but its F-16s are somewhat a major threat to our Su30s but again their fleet is stronger than ours n we even have less Su30s that their F-16s.



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We would be able to only beat Pak.


The chinese have Quantity & the rest have Quality.


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We would be able to only beat Pak.


The chinese have Quantity & the rest have Quality.


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Correction the rest have quantity and quality

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Isn't the IAF the 4th Largest.


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Isn't the IAF the 4th Largest.


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Is it really?


I mean then where did USA, UK, China, France, Germany and Russia go?



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There are several large airforces in terms of combat planes, apart from US, Russia (VVS) and PLAAF (China).


 I think French AF is the 4th, followed by IAF. But I could be wrong (only by a bit). JSDF (Japan) , Israel AF, and also Saudi air fleet is large.


But Overall, in terms of equipment, logistics, infrastructure and strike capability, we might be no5.


just my 2c.


 



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AKLDELNonstop wrote:


Hey Fellas,

Pardon my ignorance. But exactly how would our airforce compare with foriegn power, ie Pak, China, US, UK, Israel etc?

Cheers




this wud be a very debative topic...


however my perception


we are nowhere compared to US, UK n Israel


China is stronger interms of total fleet.


Pak is equally stronger but its F-16s are somewhat a major threat to our Su30s but again their fleet is stronger than ours n we even have less Su30s that their F-16s.





   PAF is no match for IAF-Even their F16s are of the block C types, and that too without spares. Su30 can outfight the F16 in almost all parameters, with its huge Pulse Doppler radar,and thrust vectoring capabilities-Remember we have the Su30MKI (customised for India) multimission aircraft -canard foreplanes et al.


Its like we almost dont need to send Su30 against F16s. If the MiG29s can come into a close tangle, they too will be able to outmaneuver the F16 -technically speaking. The F16 does have somewhat of an edge over the Mirage2000 (only in terms of superior all round sight for pilot thru the glass cockpit, and a better cannon, I believe ?)


But all of this can come to nought at the hands of a bad pilot. As evinced in several air wars, a  superior pilot in a relatively inferior plane has been able to outfight the opponent.



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