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something like on the VT-EYL not sure but most probably

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the A320s leased are goin out for sure as new ones come


It wil be against their own new deliveries. Of the 43-new Airbus fleet on order, there will be 4 A320s. These will come in last. Airbus will delivery alternately the A319s and A321s before that.



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Don't forget the 12 leased wide-bodies that IA wants from January 2007 onwards.  

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forgot to mention leased A320s will go out

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It will be fun to see IC with a variety of aircraft once the new ones come in - A319s, A320s, A321s, the widebodies (mostly A330s) and A300s if they aren't phased out till then.


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Don't forget the 12 leased wide-bodies that IA wants from January 2007 onwards.  



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It will be fun to see IC with a variety of aircraft once the new ones come in - A319s, A320s, A321s, the widebodies (mostly A330s) and A300s


Looking at the type of IFE IA wants, they are looking madly for the A340-300E.


IA spokesman, when releasing the tender, kept quoting the technical specifications of the A340-3E on the sidelines.


Also said Airbus is in close touch with them.  



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I really wonder whether the 42 a/c order by IC is sufficient. It has 18 A320s and 4 A319s on lease. The B737s and A300s will be out by the year end. That leaves it with a fleet of its 30 owned A320s. Out of these, the ones delivered in 1989-90 will be on their way out after 5 years.

That leaves IC with the just the 12 of its present A320s and 42 a/c on order. A fleet size of just 54 a/c.

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himmat01 wrote:

I really wonder whether the 42 a/c order by IC is sufficient. It has 18 A320s and 4 A319s on lease. The B737s and A300s will be out by the year end. That leaves it with a fleet of its 30 owned A320s. Out of these, the ones delivered in 1989-90 will be on their way out after 5 years. That leaves IC with the just the 12 of its present A320s and 42 a/c on order. A fleet size of just 54 a/c.
The A300s are not goin out so soon and the order is for 43 a/c not 42. The B737s will continue as freighters and IC is looking to lease a fleet of 6-10 A320s more (not confirmed but interested)

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the_380 wrote:
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I really wonder whether the 42 a/c order by IC is sufficient. It has 18 A320s and 4 A319s on lease. The B737s and A300s will be out by the year end. That leaves it with a fleet of its 30 owned A320s. Out of these, the ones delivered in 1989-90 will be on their way out after 5 years. That leaves IC with the just the 12 of its present A320s and 42 a/c on order. A fleet size of just 54 a/c.
The A300s are not goin out so soon and the order is for 43 a/c not 42. The B737s will continue as freighters and IC is looking to lease a fleet of 6-10 A320s more (not confirmed but interested)


An airline cannot grow on leased a/c. Even if IC manages to lease more A 320s, they will be quite old. In hope that the merger with AI comes through, then it won't have the need to lease old a/c.

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The merger will result into strikes and directives within the airlines the govt. knows it too well...they will have to reduce some ground staff, helpers etc which is not possible b'cos both the airlines if for e.g. they need 2 helpers somewhere they have employeed 10 there (public sector) so its difficult besides both unions want independent working

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1748521.cms
Image makeover: IA grounds free upgrades
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NEW DELHI: With competition breathing down its neck and marketshare cruising to new lows, the 53-year-old Indian Airlines is on a belt-tightening mission. As a first step, the airline has decided to ground requests — even from government departments — for free upgrades to its business class seats.


The move, airline sources said, is aimed at improving the profile of its business class product besides boosting the revenue stream.


"We had reached a state where a majority of the seats in Business Class were being filled from free upgrade requests — be it from government officials or personal guests of high-profile individuals. We wanted to curb this practice, which was diminishing the value of our premium product," a source said.


This, airline officials said, is part of efforts to improve the look and feel of Indian in the wake of increased competition from new entrants in the domestic skies.


"We had reached a state where almost everyone who could pull a string or two were seeking free upgrades to Business Class. This had started putting the fully-paid premium traveller at an inconvenience as he felt cheated.


He was paying the extra price for a certain amount of privacy and the free upgrades were ruining it. So, we have decided not to entertain such free upgrade requests any more. When the private airlines do not entertain such requests, why should we?" the source said.


Any request for free upgrades, the sources said, are now being dealt with directly by Indian Airlines chairman Vishwapati Trivedi. Prior to this, Trivedi had ordered his overweight cabin crew to shape-up or move out of flight duties.


These are also part of a larger image makeover exercise — under which the crew uniform is being redesigned to include dresses other than the saree — to appear more contemporary for the discerning Indian air traveller. Besides, it will soon be providing independent television screens, along with Live TV feed.



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IA is getting (Mahendra Singh) cricketer Dhoni to advertise its J class.


Campaign will be increased. Already a print ad was released a few weeks ago.


 


But don't know how succesful IA will be in freeing up J. AI tried this once. But not too successful. Staff filling up First and J is a big problem. 


 



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Looks as if Dish TV is gettin a new client..... Moreover IC needs to first restructure itself in order to meet international standards. Adding Innovative IFE's doesn't means a complete change in IC. They need to maintain it too in order to beat their rivals.
But man let us not forget that Mr.Mallya doesn't likes to lag behind. He will surely come up with something more innovative, revolutionary..... that will leave IC miles behind... Go VJM Go.....

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BTW How good is Dish Tv.Anyone Use it.


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HAWK21M wrote:
BTW How good is Dish Tv.Anyone Use it.
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Actually at present only 2 providers are there for the DTH service. One is DISH and the other is Doordarshan. DISH has a wider choice of channels as compared to DD, but DD offers this service for free... For the timebeing DISH rulz.... but Tata and Star TV are 2gether coming up with a DTH service. BTW Dish is owned by Zee.

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I heard there Packages are not many.


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DD package is being tested on an IA A320.

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karatecatman wrote:

DD package is being tested on an IA A320.

 


 How do u know any links of the report? Or did u got this information from one of ur acquaintance working in IC.


As far as IC,s J class is concerned c,mon man they have the best connectivity in India after DN and with 4 J class coupons for 28K i am dying to fly them and wud be doing that soon.



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IA MD Dr. Vishwapathi Trivedi said this at a press conference in May. The information is one of the links here.!!!!


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Source in IA says: (Has sent the draft by email)


IA is to supply on board amenity kits by the year end:


Details are: 


Ladies amenity kit:
Toilet Bag with Indian Logo
Travel tooth brush with 5 gms paste (Brands – Colgate/Forhans/Mcleans/Close up)
Folding Hair Brush with Comb Combination
Mouth Wash 25ml Alcohal free anti Bacterial dazzling free triple strength. (Brands: Rembrandt, Listerine, TipperaryScope/Crab/Tree/Evelyn)
Eye mask
Pair of Ear plugs
Moisturizer – 5 ml (Brands: Rochas/Neutrogena/Body shop/Eau de Givenchy/Paris/Saint Laurent 4711Estee Lauder/Biotech)
Square Folding Mirror compact with one Regular and one magnifying mirror


 


Quantity: 54,000


 


Gents amentiy kit:
Toilet Bag with Indian Logo
Travel tooth brush with 5 gms paste (Brands – Colgate/Forhans/Mcleans/Close up)
Folding Hair Brush with Comb Combination
Mouth Wash 25ml Alcohol free anti Bacterial dazzling free triple strength. (Brands: Rembrandt, Listerine, TipperaryScope/Crab/Tree/Evelyn)
Eye Mask
Pair of Ear Plug
Eau de Colgne 5ml (After shave lotion) (Brands: Eau de Givenchy/Paris/ Roger & Gallet/  Saint Laurent 4711/ Hermes)
Razor with Safety twin blades with shaving Gel 10ml in poly pack. (Brand: Gillette)


Quantity: 3,06,000

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