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Yeah right, thats because the IA engineers and staff are most comfortable handling the A300s......they have been doing that for ages


Hell, even a roadside mechanic would be more comfortable repairing a Premier Padmini rather than a Honda Accord!!!


On a serious note, the mainstay of IC is their A320s. I am sure most of the IC staff would be quite used to these aircraft. Besides, the new A319s are from the same A320 family have pretty much similar features, so they will easily adapt.


Having said that kudos to Indian Airlines to keep their A300s flying for so long!


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even though A300s are the most oldest aircrafts in their fleets it is still the most trusted aircrafts in their fleets



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Ur wrong vivek its not similar to a roadside mechanic or even if it is then a Padmini will have more probs than the Accord.


I have seen engineers standing while re-fuelling is on because there is a spillage most of the times while re-fuelling that aircraft.


Since the aircraft is big its shakes less in clouds as compared to the A320 and B737 in their fleets.


The A300s still give a better performence on air.



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Agreed that the A300 is a wideboady and can carry more passengers.


However, one cannot deny the fact that it is an ageing aircraft with a decades old technology. Yes, it still flies reliably but because of its age and technological obsolescence, it is prone to snags and is maintenance intensive. It also has a higher noise level due to the older engines


So, apart from the higher capacity and range, is there any other data/statistic to show that an A300 is a better performance than say an A320?


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The A300s still give a better performence on air.



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vivekman wrote:

 So, apart from the higher capacity and range, is there any other data/statistic to show that an A300 is a better performance than say an A320?
Yes there is it is that pilots on A300 are paid more than pilots on A320 for same sectors:lol:

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Oh! Is that a risk allowance or something??


Now we know why the pilots "prefer" the A300. Lol!!


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Yes there is it is that pilots on A300 are paid more than pilots on A320 for same sectors:lol:



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hehehe...good one

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  Pal do u have the occupancy figures of flights jet operates to SIN from BOM. See if there is just a demand of for A320 why on earth SQ does double daily to BOM that too 777-300ER. SQ must be mad if they are using a 777 on the SIN-KUL route which is just a 30-40min flight they should be using some ATR,s if they follow jet thinking and put all 777,s or route to LHR lol...  Trust me i think they are underestimating the purchasing power of asia-pacific region...

I flew on the SQ flight in the morning in DEC, and it was not even 70% full.


I had a chat with the inflight superwisor and he said that he always prefers doing the morning flights as they are never full, on asking him was it really necessary for SQ to start this flight they could have just upgraded the night flight to the regional 744 config which would have added 120 seats.


He told me that the cargo they fill up on this route requires atleast another 772 aircraft to collect.and if the passenger figures are low the aircraft is downgraded to the 772 from the 773 which was the case in my flight.


Also the reason SQs 777s pile the route and are packed in the night is not only because of strong O&D presence which accounts to barely 30% of the load, the rest are as follows [rough estimates]


20% connecting to SE Asia[HKG/BKK/KUL etc]


10% connecting to Far East & China [PVG/NRT/SEL]


40% [possibly more--you should know you were one of those who connected] to USA and Australia [LAX/SYD/PER/MEL]


About the Kul-Sin sector 777 [that is the smallest aircraft they have so what is one to do, EK fly the 330 to BAH--40mins because it is the smallest they have not because of demand]


As regards to the BKK sector, similar stats can be quoted for TG thus justifying the use of 330s and 777s to India, but in terms of 9W they are just serving a terminator flight with no onward connections, and BKK is more a tourist destinations i flew in Dec to BKK on a CX 773 for a ticket that cost just 10,800 all inclusive [i could not believe that fair myself], if they price it right no one will complain.


What you are saying makes sense from a comfort point of view, but 9W will put the 737NG refurbished [32 inch legroom not 28 inch like the domestic ones] on the BKK route atleast initially to see how the route performs and then maybe upgrade to the 332, but IMHO i never see that happening unless they fly the aircraft further to Japan or Australia.


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but i remember flying on SQ B777-200 to BOM and it was totally full it was a morning flight

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Wow.....thats unbelievable! Lemme know the next time such a fare shows up on the BKK route. I would be the first one to book


Karan69 wrote:

i flew in Dec to BKK on a CX 773 for a ticket that cost just 10,800 all inclusive [i could not believe that fair myself],



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9W has ordered B777-300ERs right when will they start arriving?



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Seems to be a report with errors. Guess 747 must be 767, but here it is anyway.


 


 Amritsar, Jun 26 (PTI) The much expected direct flight from the holy city of Amritsar to London of Jet Airways, which was scheduled to take off from the international Rajasansi Airport on June 28, has been postponed indefinitely.


 The officials of the Jet Airways here have expressed uncertainty about the new dates and also about the fresh schedule of launch.


 Earlier, the Jet Airways was expected to take off on Wednesday, from Amritsar to London.


 The air service was especially aimed at NRIs from the state and Jet was expected to fly daily, except on Tuesdays.


 The Rajasansi airport had already allotted a slot to Jet Airways, which was expected to operate Boeing 747 aircraft on this route, officials said.


 Commenting on the reason, a spokesperson of company, A K Shivanandan said, ‘‘We are running short of Aircrafts for the operation. Earlier we were looking for Sahara, for the aircraft, but as the deal was not materilised, so it was postponed.’’


 When asked about the new dates, he expressed uncertainty over the proposed flight.


 At present, there is no direct flight to London from Rajasansi Airport, and three airlines -- Uzebekistan, Air Slovakia and Turkemenistan -- operate flights to London from here and passengers have to go via Arab countries or Russia.



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Jet expected to fly B747???


i am totally confused didnt atq airport know that 9w has no 747s but A340 or even s2 has 767



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http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200611061863.htm



A Kolkata-Port Blair flight, an additional one to Delhi and daily ones to Bangkok from the metropolis were today announced by private carrier Jet Airways as part of a major expansion plan in eastern India.

"Jet Airways will operate a daily flight to Port Blair from November 11, an early evening flight to Delhi from December 1 and a daily flight to Bangkok from January 18, 2007 from Kolkata," Jet Chief Executive Officer, Wolfgang Prock-Schauer, told a press conference here.

The Kolkata-Port Blait flight had been fully booked for the next three months, he said.

Prock-Schauer said the Centre had allowed Jet to operate a flight from Kolkata to Bangkok, which would be the first ever foreign flight from the metropolis by a private airline.

It would also operate a Delhi-Bangkok flight from the same date, he said.

With the introduction of its Kolkata-Port Blair flight, Jet would have four aircraft based in Kolkata.

The opening offer for the Kolkata-Bangkok-Kolkata in economic class would Rs 6,000 and an additional Rs 3,200 as taxes, totalling Rs 9,200 approximately.

With its fleet strength going up to 90 from the existing 58 by the end of 2008-09, several new destinations in North America, Europe, South Africa, Kenya, China and Asean countries would be connected. The airlines aimed at making the revenue ratio in international and domestic sectors 50:50 from the present 17:83 basis, he said.

The airline has also entered into tie-ups with several foreign airlines like United Airlines and Qantas for improved global operations, he said.

Noting that the airline's domestic market share was 32 per cent at present, the CEO said that this would also go up with the airline touching several new destinations, besides increasing capacity in the existing routes in the country.

"However, our expansion will be purely on market requirement," he said, adding that the airline had no intention to consider itself a low-cost subsidiary in future.

Jet Airways operates over 330 daily flights to 49 destinations spanning the length and breadth of India and beyond including London, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Colombo and Kathmandu at present.



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I was on IC 173/174 (BOM-MAA-BOM) a number of times the last time being in August, always on the same aircraft VT-EHC, and it was in excellent decent shape. Seat pitch was a superb 34" types. Cabin crew have always been a mix of mostly seniors with one or two abs raw freshers.


My AB3 flights have all been on time, except once at MAA when the aircraft was held back after boarding waiting for incoming pax from Colombo and Madurai flights. I actually PREFER it to the newer A320's and will sure miss them!!


When I flew into MAA from CJB in the morning I saw the aircraft taxiing in prolly after a flight and being led to the remote parking area to the north of the domestic terminal. It was still sitting there when I checked in for my return flight to BOM in the evening. It was later towed to the aerobridge.


On the BOM-MAA leg it usually has chaps headed for US and Australia, while the MAA-BOM leg usually has pax from SIN and CMB. On the last flight atleast 60 pax were incoming from CMB. I am surprised how IC manages to fill up the AB3 so easily on a domestic leg!!



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Confirmed read it on the member only page of CAPA - Centre For Asia Pacific Aviation


http://www.centreforaviation.com/aviation/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=373


Jet Airways is deploying a Boeing 737-800 on the Calcutta-Bangkok sector.


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Good news, i think Jet should do exceedingly well on CCU-BKK-CCU route.There is great demand on this route.You ask a common Bengali where he plans on going for his next vacation and the answer is Thailand.Trade is also on a regular rise.Lets hope Jet provides a afternoon service arriving in Bangkok at around 5-6 PM something TG did for a long while before changing to their horrible 2 hours after midnight departure.Inspite of their absurd timing TG continues to do brilliantly on this route and our going daily from summer 2007.IC with a daily morning departure is going quite full and even Druk air with their 6.40 in the morning arrival into CCU does about 60-65% loads with their 5x weekly A319 service.

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B772 wrote:

IC with a daily morning departure is going quite full and even Druk air with their 6.40 in the morning arrival into CCU does about 60-65% loads with their 5x weekly A319 service.

Can you please confirm its A319 service?

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Yes, it is a A319 service.Please check www.airwise.com .It operates daily except Mondays and Thursdays . Unofficial news just comings in is that a Chinese carrier will operate out of CCU from summer 207. Does anyone have further information ?

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Karan69 wrote:



vabby wrote:


  Pal do u have the occupancy figures of flights jet operates to SIN from BOM. See if there is just a demand of for A320 why on earth SQ does double daily to BOM that too 777-300ER. SQ must be mad if they are using a 777 on the SIN-KUL route which is just a 30-40min flight they should be using some ATR,s if they follow jet thinking and put all 777,s or route to LHR lol...  Trust me i think they are underestimating the purchasing power of asia-pacific region...


SQ dont have any 773ER's yet! First one will be inducted later this year.


 


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Sowie it was a typo error was referring to B773

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