Any news on Jet's (9W) getting permission to fly to USA ? - Airliners-India

karatecatman · Member

CA ministry has not received any letter regarding Jet

karatecatman · Member

Jet Airways take on UK to India market

Nimish · Member

RE: Any news on Jet's (9W) getting permission to fly to USA ?

the_380 · Member

9W should have less trouble while getting clearance from HAL airport than DD as its a foreign carrier

VABBy · Member

the_380 wrote:

9W should have less trouble while getting clearance from HAL airport than DD as its a foreign carrier

C,mon man thats B******T. I dont think at all that there would be racial profiling of the airline operaters done by the aiport authorities when it comes to allowing them to fly into the airport. Lets talk some sense here guys. And if u think that what u said was correct may i have some past instances where a foreign carrier wasnt allowed to fly due to non slot availability and congestion while the flag carrier of that same country was allowed to start its services.

Nimish · Member

the_380 wrote:

9W should have less trouble while getting clearance from HAL airport than DD as its a foreign carrier

I'm not sure when you're implying here, if it's just that 9W will be able to use one of their existing slots - yes - that's true. If you mean 9W has the "means" to influence the HAL authorities - I won't be surprised, given how slick 9W is in all such matters (refer earlier success at killing SIA entering India). But if it's that HAL will give preference to 9W over DD, then that would absolutely suck - since there's no logic or rationale behind that.

karatecatman · Member

A sort of background to this:

Air Deccan and Jet negotiate a tie-up of sorts. But a while later Deccan's Gopi makes it clear that he wants to unseat Jet from the top spot.

Nok Air is trying to negotiate an alliance with Air Deccan, with Bangalore as the preferrred destination.

Air Asia is also trying a deal with Air Deccan.

Air Asia is in talks with a new Sri Lankan based LCC, which in turn has its sights on India. The same Lankan LCC is also trying to negotiate a deal with Air Deccan (Deccan Lanka).

-- Edited by karatecatman at 23:54, 2006-09-25

sri_bom · Member

Jet to operate direct flight to Newark

Sunday, November 12, 2006 (London):

India's leading private airliner Jet Airways will operate a daily flight connecting Mumbai with Brussels and Newark from summer next year.

This was announced on Saturday night by Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt while jointly inaugurating an Indian Exhibition 'Tejas Eternal Energy' with Congress President and UPA Chairperson Sonia Gandhi.

"I am proud to announce, in the presence of Mrs Sonia Gandhi and Naresh Goyal, Chairman of Jet Airways, that from the summer of next year on, a daily flight connecting Mumbai with Brussels and Newark will be operational," Verhofstadt said.

"In the following weeks all necessary clearances will be granted," he added.

Tejas is a unique exhibition on ancient Indian art mounted by the Indian Council for Cultural Relations in collaboration with the Tourism Ministry.

It is part of a four-month-long 'Indian Festival' being held in Belgium. The Belgian Prime Minister later hosted a dinner in Gandhi's honour. (PTI)

http://www.ndtvprofit.com/homepage/storybusinessnew.asp?slug=Jet+to+operate+direct+flight+to+Newark&id=34638

Jet Airways reportedly plans to launch Delhi-Dusseldorf-Toronto, Delhi-Hong Kong-Toronto, Mumbai-Brussels-New York, and Mumbai-Shanghai-San Francisco services in 2007, as it takes delivery of new widebody aircraft

(Times of India, 13-Nov-06).

Aseem · Member

sri_bom wrote:

Jet Airways reportedly plans to launch Delhi-Dusseldorf-Toronto, Delhi-Hong Kong-Toronto, Mumbai-Brussels-New York, and Mumbai-Shanghai-San Francisco services in 2007, as it takes delivery of new widebody aircraft
(Times of India, 13-Nov-06).

couple of quick comments!!

Delhi-Dusseldorf-Toronto: Why not via Munich?? What is there in Dusseldorf, or am I missing anything. Why two flights from Delhi to Toronto when AI and AC already do without aircraft change. Won't Mumbai-Dusseldorf/Munich-Toronto be a better option. They are leaving Toronto-Mumbai open to AC.
Delhi-Hong Kong-Toronto: My My this is a killer. Toronto is all about Desis and Chinese and if they play their cards well they can contemplate "double-daily". Plus Delhi-Hong Kong crowd. All they need is tie up with carriers for other cities on west coast.
Mumbai-Shanghai-San Francisco is another icing on the cake.

Seriously, I wish the concerned bilateral are liberalized and they are able to realize their dreams.

rgds

VT-ASJ

himmat01 · Member

India-Hongkong bilaterals will have to be revised before 9W can start flying DEL-HKG-YYZ.

DEL-HKG-YYZ would be 10141 miles compared to DEL-FRA-YYZ which would be 7764 miles. A rather long flight for a guy flying from DEL to YYZ.

-- Edited by himmat01 at 10:08, 2006-11-13

Aseem · Member

himmat01 wrote:

DEL-HKG-YYZ would be 10141 miles compared to DEL-FRA-YYZ which would be 7764 miles. A rather long flight for a guy flying from DEL to YYZ.

-- Edited by himmat01 at 10:08, 2006-11-13

this can be guaged by the fact that AC has to use its A345 on this route and it poses problems with their A343s.

rgds

VT-ASJ

karatecatman · Member

Nov. 16, 2006

All the TV channels have been flashing the news.

US has finally cleared Jet.

karatecatman · Member

Praful Bhaiyya must be breaking a million coconuts.

JumboJet · Member

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/jet-gets...n-signal-to-fly-to-us/26310-7.html

Some information

Aseem · Member

here are the highlights

"New Delhi: In what came as a long overdue relief for private airline Jet Airways, the US State Department on Thursday gave security clearance the private carrier to launch flights to America....

Initially, the airline plans to operate from Delhi and Mumbai to three US cities - New York, Chicago and either San Francisco or Los Angeles.

Sources indicated that the routes being considered by the airline include operating Mumbai-Brussels-New York and Mumbai-Shanghai-San Francisco.

If the airline decides to operate to Los Angeles, then that flight too will be operated through Shanghai, sources said, adding that the airline was also examining the option of operating on the Delhi-Dusseldrof-Toronto sector.

The airline, however, may have to wait till April or May next year before it is in a position to operate these flights, as it is scheduled to take delivery of the Boeing 777 aircraft by then...."

IBN

So, its not without reason that Belgian PM said something so candidly to the press...

rgds

VT-ASJ

the_380 · Member

Holy Cow!

IBN news video link http://in.news.yahoo.com/061116/211/69fok.html

I presume probably the 9W has bribed heavily people in the US responsible for not allowing 9W. And besides 9W must have confirmed its 777 orders (must have started the payments already or will start soon)

This is a move clearly as to influence the US

No wonder we have a group of chors sitting in our ministry

karatecatman · Member

http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=265107&leftnm=1&subLeft=0&chkFlg=

US lets in price warrior Jet

BS Reporters / New Delhi/Mumbai November 17, 2006

The US Department of Transport’s decision to allow in Jet Airways is expected to kick off a fare war on the India-US route.

“We are awaiting the formal approval and will then work on the schedule and fares. Our fares will be competitive,” said a Jet Airways executive. An external affairs ministry official also confirmed that Jet Airways had been given the green signal.

Jet Airways has already placed orders for 10 Boeing 777s and seven A 330-200 aircraft and hopes to begin US operations by the summer of 2007.

“Of course they will play on price because they have to build market share and leverage on quality but we, too, are gearing up for battle,” said an Air-India executive.

“Jet Airways will get more visibility but will face tough competition from domestic as well as overseas players,” said Gautam Sinha Roy, analyst, Edelweiss Securities. The average economy class return fare to the US is around Rs 45,000.

India-US is among the most profitable sectors and is expected to help Jet Airways’ troubled international operations, which account for about 17 per cent of the company’s revenues but have been key to its losses, especially its operations to London.

“Jet Airways will have to compete with established carriers with deep pockets such as American Airways, Continental Airways, US Airways, British Airways and Lufthansa. Jet Airways will have to face competition from indirect flights, too, like Singapore Airlines,” an aviation expert said. He added that Jet Airways might not get a passenger load factor of 70 per cent, essential to break even in the initial stages.

Another challenge for Jet Airways, experts said, would be to start multi-departure point operations in India to the US. This will require the carrier to acquire additional wide-bodied aircraft. International carriers are operating multi-departure points like Bangalore, Hyderabad and Chennai, apart from Delhi and Mumbai, to the US.

The traffic between India and the US is about 3 million passengers, growing by about 10 per cent a year. This is about 15.7 per cent of the total 19 million international passengers to and from India. But because of burgeoning demand, most airlines operate at over 80 per cent passenger load factor.

However, capacity to the US is expected to go up by 25 per cent in the next 12 months with new flights being added by many carriers.

Air-India, for instance, has increased its flights from 10 in 2002 to over 28, and with the new 777 Boeing aircraft joining the fleet next year, it is planning to launch non-stop flights.

By the end of 2007, it expects to have over 40 flights to the US.

Kingfisher Airlines is also planning to launch its services to New York by 2008 while Delta has started a non-stop daily flight from November. There are about 10 indirect and three direct passenger air services per day between the US and India.

JumboJet · Member

People thought that Jet lost the Battle, Now the real war starts

HAWK21M · Member

Im sure 9W will prove a worthy competitor abroad.

regds

MEL

karatecatman · Member

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/16737.html
Govt agencies waffle on Jet security check, word comes from US: fly
Express News ServicePosted online: Friday, November 17, 2006 at 0000 hrs Print Email
NEW DELHI, NOVEMBER 16: Jet Airways has been given an all-clear by the US government, clearing the decks for the airline to mount its US-operations next summer.

The American Department of Transportation has granted economic authority for Jet to fly to the US and the airline will now have to initiate operational discussions with Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). The clearance, a result of suo-motu action by the US, has come despite the Indian government failing to get back over security related queries raised by the US.

US authorities had written to the Civil Aviation Ministry following allegations that Jet Airways had links with the underworld and Al-Qaeda. The Ministry forwarded the letter to the External Affairs Ministry for further action. The matter was then handed over to intelligence agencies and the Enforcement Directorate for a response. Till date, there has been no word from these agencies.

The slow progress on the Indian side led to frustration as there was no objection to the airline’s operations in India. Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel had also made this point recently when he expressed displeasure over Indian agencies dragging their feet.

The go-ahead given now is a result of an independent inquiry carried out by the US Embassy. It’s learnt that Washington also obtained a report from the CIA.

The feedback was positive.

In its continuous interaction with the US Embassy on implementing the Open Skies agreement, the Civil Aviation Ministry is learnt to have drawn Washington’s attention to the fact that Jet Airways had been designated by New Delhi under this agreement and that the former should honour this.

It was pointed out to both FAA’s Administrator Marion C Blakey on her recent visit to India and US Ambassador David Mulford on many occasions that a complaint from any quarter must not be the basis for curtailing the rights of a designated carrier.

The US also conveyed the sense that the Jet issue was being needlessly dragged and was an “irritant” that needed to be removed at the earliest. With American Airlines and Continental Airlines having already begun operations to India, it was odd that the only airline operating from India to US was Air India. The US was keen to change this situation and given the delay on the Indian side in responding to US queries, it began a parallel process of looking into these concerns and expeditiously addressing them.

The Indian authorities also conveyed to the US that they could consult the United Kingdom authorities — with whom they share a sound understanding on terror and security-related issues — as London had recently made a suo motu statement saying the British government had no concerns about aviation security and terrorism with regards to Jet Airways’ operations to the UK.

Jet Airways was scheduled to start operations to Newark via Brussels in June 2005. The plans, however, were grounded following a complaint from a US namesake, Jet Airways Inc, which accused Jet of having links with the underworld and Al-Qaeda. The airline has now approached the Civil Aviation Ministry seeking permission to operate Boeing 777 aircraft on the Mumbai-Brussels-Newark and Mumbai-Shanghai-San Francisco routes. Jet also has plans to develop Shanghai as a major stopover to mount flights to Los Angeles and Chicago. The airline also plans to fly Delhi-Toronto via Dusseldorf.

editor@expressindia.com

-- Edited by karatecatman at 12:00, 2006-11-17