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Singapore airlines vying for open sky policy with India


Mumbai, Sep 28 (UNI)


Singapore airlines is ready for an open sky policy with India and is in talks with the Indian government said Mr Foo Chai Woo, the airline’s newly appointed general manager.
Talking to a select group of journalists here today, he said the airlines has an open sky policy with countries such as China, the US, Australia and Thailand. It would be happy to add India in the list, which has immense potential in aviation market.
Mr Foo took over the reigns from Mr B K Ong who had been managing the operations for almost 4 years from the airline’s head office in Mumbai.
‘‘There is a great inflow of Indians in Singapore and adjoining areas and the open sky policy will be very helpful in this situation,’’ he added.
Mr Foo said, ‘‘India is an exciting market with numerous opportunities that are now available especially in aviation industry.’’
Singapore Airlines which started operations to Chennai in 1970, operates 47 weekly flights to eight destinations in India. They are Mumbai, Delhi, Chennai, Kolkata, Hyderabad, Ahmedabad and Amritsar. Its subsidiary regional airline ’Silkair’ operates five flights to Kochi and four to Thiruvanthapuram.
Singapore Airlines, a star alliance member flies to 91 destinations in 37 countries and will be the first airline in the world to fly in the Airbus A380 in 2006.



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This is good news and should be allowed to come through (subject to India getting the ability to use SIN as a major hub if it wants).

Now that we have a number of Indian carriers flying to SIN (AI, IC, 9W and S2), and we have a number of Singaporean private airlines flying to India (SQ, MI, 3K), it makes sense to remove any caps that exist. I can imagine someone like 9W using SIN as a hub, ferrying pax from points in India to SIN, and then letting them connect to points in ANZ on BA/QF or 9W metal.

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Nimish wrote:


This is good news and should be allowed to come through (subject to India getting the ability to use SIN as a major hub if it wants).

Now that we have a number of Indian carriers flying to SIN (AI, IC, 9W and S2), and we have a number of Singaporean private airlines flying to India (SQ, MI, 3K), it makes sense to remove any caps that exist. I can imagine someone like 9W using SIN as a hub, ferrying pax from points in India to SIN, and then letting them connect to points in ANZ on BA/QF or 9W metal.


Fair comment, but what about SQ deploying its eqpt on the gravy trails, India-LHR, India-Gulf, India-USA. Where does that leave our flegdling airlines.


I've time and again repeated show me the number of O&D pax these authoritarian city states can offer. There is absolutely no value for these states to offer India.


If India had to demarcate Andamans on the SE and Nicobar Islands on the SW into authoritarian Tax free financial centres like SIN & DXB, these 2 Jackass states and their airlines will perish overnight. Its high time the GOI created an enabling enviournment for the countries airline before signing O-Skies with countries with a population of < 5m.



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Its high time the GOI created an enabling enviournment for the countries airline before signing O-Skies with countries with a population of < 5m.




Well the GoI must create an environment for it's own airlines to prosper. But until it does that, there's no reason to have the people of India suffer, so I say open up the skies immediately, and liberalize the Indian aviation environment immediately. The benefits and needs of the 1 billiion population is much much more important than just looking after the needs of the (say 100K) folks working with the govt airlines.


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Well the GoI must create an environment for it's own airlines to prosper. But until it does that, there's no reason to have the people of India suffer, so I say open up the skies immediately, and liberalize the Indian aviation environment immediately. The benefits and needs of the 1 billiion population is much much more important than just looking after the needs of the (say 100K) folks working with the govt airlines.



Lets look at the larger picture. The oppurtunity to travel on these airlines already exist, its the gains from an expanding dom aviation i am refering to. No point in SQ creating over a 100K jobs in aviation in sin on the back of 1B indians.



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There is absolutely no value for these states to offer India.



Here I completely disagree. If we take the example of SQ - it's given excellent service and connections to Indians wanting to fly abroad - the type we can never hope IC/AI will give. It's given us an example of a leading airline - with world class service on board. It's allowed millions of Indians to feel truly like kings in the sky (OK, I think I'm going overboard here, but I hope you get the idea)...

Even a tiny little ant has lots of value, and Singapore definitely brings value to India. India can offer much better value to the world, but we let ourselves be ruled by a corrupt and silly goverment, and run corrupt and silly airline(s).

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  but we let ourselves be ruled by a corrupt and silly goverment, and run corrupt and silly airline(s).


And it is these very small 'value' based states and their 'value' based airlines and co that channel the funds for the system to be corrupt to further their vested interest, i can see a few lunging towards their key boards to type ''Source''.


There is a MRO here in U.K. called BASCO, it is a subsidary of ST-Aero sin, AI has been sending their A300B4x3 and A310s here for heavy maint. This outfit is only 4yrs old and is on the verge of shut down now (guys have got their termination notices ) due to its poor reputation in the EU maint market. Now the blokes accompanying these a/c from AI-Engg claim this is nothing short of a scam, where huge sums are being paid for maint of these a/c here in U.K. While AI has a far better and more reputed engg facility. Well i know this example is purely here say without solid facts. But it does beg a Q why send these a/c to U.K. when we have the resources her in India, and of all the places to a little know set up ? And if for a moment we accept that there has been money laundered here, without the compliance of the singaporeans no money can made, as the Invoices have to reflect the amount released from state coffers.


I do realise i could be sounding holier than thou and Pontificating about Indian patriotism while being a resident of a foreign country, for all i care let India sign a Open Skies with Singapore, Qatar and UAE as all of their airlines have gained intl awards for their Inflt service. However for the sake of Indian economy and soverignity over something as vital as the air transport within the country IMO the govt of India should stop signing any more OS till the GOI pulls out of running airlines and all airlines within India have a level playing field. Remember every 1m pax growth creates 1000 jobs in India, which otherwise would go to these city states and frustrated TMs like me end up there.


Look at whats happened after the OS with USA, you've 3 of their airlines flying Non-stop into India whereas our also ran AI is struggling to maintain its new sectors there. Undoubtedly it was a wise decision to sign a OS with USA, but for heaven sake also allow all our airlines the scope fly into these sectors. I am very hopefull of seeing the likes of KF and Indigo developing into world class intl airlines to beat the best out there, with DN being the SWest of Asia. The jobs in the USA airlines owe a lot to the Indian OS



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Back to some Singapore news.


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Singapore’s Tiger Airways eyes six new South Asian routes in 2007: report
 
SINGAPORE, Nov 2, 2006 (UNI) 


Singapore’s Tiger Airways has applied to India and Sri Lanka to fly to six destinations as part of a bid to ramp up its South Asian network, its chief executive said in remarks published Thursday.
The Singapore-based budget carrier hopes to get the nod to fly next year to Sri Lanka’s capital of Colombo and Indian cities Kolkata, Thiruvananthapuram, Kochi, Kozhikode and Goa, said Tony Davis.
‘‘We have filed the necessary applications with the authorities in India and Sri Lanka and hope to progressively add the new new points to our network from next year,’’ Davis told the Straits Times newspaper.
Singapore’s aviation authorities have already given Tiger Airways permission to fly to the six South Asian destinations, Davis said, adding that expanding the carrier’s routes to South Asia, in particular India, has been on the cards.
‘‘We have had rights to Kolkata for some time but we wanted to go into India in a meaningful way with multiple destinations instead of launching an isloated point,’’ he said.
Tiger Airways currently flies from Singapore to 14 destinations in Australia, Thailand, Vietnam, China, Macau, Indonesia and the Philippines.
The carrier launched its first flight in 2004. It is owned by four shareholders, including Singapore Airlines which has a 49 percent stake and state-linked Singapore investment firm Temasek Holdings with 11 percent.  
By the  end of 2007, Tiger expects to have a fleet of 12 Airbus single-aisle planes and to fly to 21 points out of Singapore. The carrier is a partnership between Singapore Airlines, state investment arm Temasek Holdings, the founders of Irish low-cost airline Ryanair and US-based marketing consultants Indigo Partners.


Tiger’s foray into India comes as competitor Jetstar Asia is scaling back flights to Bangalore after dropping Kolkata six months ago and adding flights to Indonesia. ‘‘We have had flights to Kolkata for some time, but we wanted to go into India in a meaningful way with multiple destinations instead of launching an isolated point,’’ Davis told the newspaper.


Its founding shareholders are: Singapore Airlines Limited (49%); Indigo Partners LLC, the investment firm founded by Bill Franke, (24%); Irelandia Investments Limited, the private investment arm of Tony Ryan and his family (founders of European no-frills carrier Ryanair), (16%); and Singapore's investment agency Temasek Holdings Pte Ltd (11%).


Tiger also operates in coordination with the other Singapore Airlines outfit Silkair, owned by Tradewinds Pte Ltd was formed in 1975 as the tours and travel arm of Singapore Airlines.



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Too much competetion on India-LHR route. Do u really reckon that SQ will be able to compete well on the route though i am 100% positive that the level of service provided by them if far above what any indian carrier provides

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Too much competetion on India-LHR route. Do u really reckon that SQ will be able to compete well on the route though i am 100% positive that the level of service provided by them if far above what any indian carrier provides


Yes and if SQ ensures stuff like Indian food and Indian crew for Ind-LHR route then all carriers operating the route currently will face a very high level of competition...


After all SQ is among the top 10 best!



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Singapore Airlines Launches New Fleet with Interiors by JPA


 

Singapore Airlines Launches New Fleet with Interiors by JPA

Client: Singapore Airlines


Project Title: Singapore Airlines Boeing 777 First Class Cabin and Fully Flat Bed


Launched: October 2006
The new Singapore Airlines First Class seat was designed to provide the traveller with a unique space within the cabin of their new B777-300ER fleet. JPA was responsible for working with SIA's chosen seat manufacturer and other suppliers to provide the optimum product for the aircraft and modern expectations of flying. The sleek styling is a calming mix of pure forms augmented with high quality materials. It strikes a balance between modern chic and traditional comfort to create a visually striking design.


Features include a 36" wide seat, super wide horizontal bed featuring a dedicated sleeping surface, stowage for passenger's luggage at each seat, 23" widescreen LCD TV, large non-foldaway but fully adjustable table, and multi-adjustable seat positions that support the passenger for work and dining or cradle them for watching a movie.


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Client: Singapore Airlines


Project Title: Singapore Airlines Business Class Seats and Cabin


Launched: October 2006


Singapore Airlines New Business Class seat was developed by JPA's design engineers and interior designers over two years. The brief was to create an uncluttered and luxurious personal area whilst pushing the boundaries of space and privacy.  JPA created the design ethos of 'luxury residential' to indicate a comfortable private area where travellers enjoy a sense of calm and ownership, whilst being surrounded by the finest materials and craftsmanship.


Key to these themes and incorporated into the seat and cabin lay out are: Direct aisle access for every passenger, 34" wide seat, super wide horizontal bed featuring a dedicated sleeping surface, stowage for passenger's luggage at each seat, a sleek monitor module which conceals a range of passenger amenities including a 16" widescreen LCD TV, and a large multi-adjustable one piece dining/work table.


 


http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/firstclass/index.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/firstclass/seatfeatures.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/firstclass/dining.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/firstclass/amenities.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/firstclass/entertainment.jsp


 


http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/businessclass/index.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/businessclass/seatfeatures.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/businessclass/dining.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/businessclass/amenities.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/businessclass/entertainment.jsp



http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/economyclass/index.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/economyclass/seatfeatures.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/economyclass/dining.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/economyclass/amenities.jsp
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/exp/new/economyclass/entertainment.jsp


 


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 Singapore Airlines eyeing new destinations


Chennai, Nov 22 (UNI)


In a bid to strengthen its presence in India, Singapore Airlines today said it was on the look out for new destinations in the country for operation of its services.


 The Airlines, which was now operating from 10 destinations in the country, would explore possibilities of more centres, Singapore Airlines (India) General Manager Foo Chai Woo told reporters here today.


 The airlines would soon be introducing more spacious first class seats in its aircraft.


 The seats were designed by leading transport and interior designer company, James Park Associates, he said.


 The economy class would also have spacious seats and more facilities, he said.


 In a bid to augment its fleet strength, the airlines had ordered 20 airbus A350 XWB-900 aircraft with options to purchase 20 more aircraft. These aircraft would join the airlines from 2012 onwards, he said.


 





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This system will bring value to India on two fronts:


#1 Indians will have better connectivity to multiple points in the far east and the US through the SQ hub. Indian carriers like IC and 9W will ofcourse have the freedom to launch their own independent services to routing via odmestic stations or stationslike HKG and BKK. The market will determine which product survives.


#2 Competetion: The increased competition from world-class airlines will mean improved service quality on Indian carriers as well. Indian carriers will have to atleast maintain if not surpass the level of the competetion. We have seen this before on the domestic market: As long as the competition came from carriers like East West and Damania, IC could afford to be complacent. However competition from a quality, world-class carrier like 9W meant IC simply had to upgrade just to survive. Ultimate result has been an overall improvement in services across the board. Beneficiary being the customer.


More Competition means keeping fares down. I can get a return ticket from Pune to Singapore for less than 12K return or to London (staging via DEL/BOM) for about 18K. Its competition that has made this possible!


Infact the Govt must strategically offer similar open-sky deals to Thailand, Singapore, Dubai, Sharjah and South Africa/Kenya (one african country).



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