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Boeing7xx


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Was flying VOBB-VIDP last night, heard a 9W declare "out of fuel" between SG-PG and then landed normally at VIJP. Any news on this? Was pretty aghast to hear this though, sounded like the capn had not got his calculations right and had a higher burn and strong headwinds, assuming that it was an ATR (Since the guy kept saying a 4 digit flight number), what sectors does 9W use the ATR for in the west?? I remember in Alliance we used to have a 9W ATR run with us VIDP-VOBB via VIJP, VIJO, VAUD.


Plus i can't imagine a 737 without at least 2 tonnes for alternate, besides he would've been above weather.



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When was this.


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Declaring a OOF and landing safely.....and no DGCA inquiries.......

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Werent' there stories about using OOF as an excuse to get an earlier landing slot? Or is it just a case of a miscalculation?

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Can someone pls tell me the names of the places i didnt het those codes


Besides doesnt 9W operate this flight regularly so how come did it happen?



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Date : 3rd August


Time : around 2145hrs


Abbreviations used :-


VOBB- Bombay


VIDP - Delhi


SG - Songarh


PG - Pratapgarh


VIJP - Jaipur


I did ask around a bit this week, and it was an ATR 72-500 which departed from Baroda (losing the code here) to Delhi. It turns out that there was an incorrect reading in the fuel indicator (this sounds like someone is covering up) which forced them to declare "out of fuel". Capt in command was an old IC Dornier capt, tried calling him to figure out the details haven't been able to reach him though.


 


PS : Had the worst experience in 10 years, holding over delhi (noob) for over an hour with the wonderful ATC asking us to maintain 180knots and execute turns while holding, had a rookie #2 who did an excellent job. IC has a wonderful future



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ATR42 & ATR72 Fuel Qty Indicators look similiar but are not Interchangable.There was a very serious Accident due to this mixup on some Airline abroad.


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Airbus3xx wrote:

Had the worst experience in 10 years, holding over delhi (noob) for over an hour with the wonderful ATC asking us to maintain 180knots and execute turns while holding, had a rookie #2 who did an excellent job. IC has a wonderful future


Is 180 Knots a normal holding speed? Good to hear that the rookie #2 did well - must be good for his flight hours!

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113 is what is the typ stall at Approach (varies angle of attack, wind, direction, speed brakes, flaps, etc, but ball park you can safely assume 115 to be the stall speed), the problem is not 180knots, but having to turn with speed brakes deployed, having aircrafts 8miles ahead of you and behind you, it gets worse as you reach lower altitudes in the schedule with flaps. Classic error i had at BOM long ago while approaching, which i will never forget, Full flaps, so had to open the throttle to avoid stalling and then got the glideslope with the nose, got nose down immediately (the avionics picked up the slope/descent ratio) and in less than 20secs got the overspeed jabber from the stick, the capt took over immediately, cut throttle, brought up the gear and at 1800ft we went around, executed a missed approach, and reconfigured for landing, that was my first rap and got hauled by the ATC, thankfully those years the DGCA was not as involved as they are now.


But overall was very impressed with the new first officer who's flown with me for the first time.



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Any Reason as to Why it got the name ALPHA speed.


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Airbus3xx wrote:

that was my first rap and got hauled by the ATC, thankfully those years the DGCA was not as involved as they are now.


But overall was very impressed with the new first officer who's flown with me for the first time.




Wow - nice to hear real life stories! Maybe the training is better now for the new recruits - what will all the fancy simulators and stuff?

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