American cargo plane forced to land at Mumbai airport - Airliners-India

karatecatman · Member

American cargo plane forced to land at Mumbai airport

karatecatman · Member

More details:

www.uninews.com

The cargo plane, a jumbo jet (flight number 8206 GTI) owned by Atlas Cargo Company and bearing registration number 5/2, was flying from Nairobi.
The plane, which was empty, had onboard four crew members who are now being questioned for giving an incorrect identity code to the Delhi Airport Control Room personnel. The Airport Authority of India (AAI) officials are carrying out further investigations, police added.

HAWK21M · Member

Atlas Cargo operates to BOM also.I wonder why they Identified themselves Wrongly.They are lucky to comply with Landing else risk knock out by the IAF.

Dumb crew if the Article is true.

regds

MEL

D-ABTH · Member

maybe they were on a charter for the US Military.... its not unheard of

shivendrashukla · Recruit

Guys,
Whatever the reason may be... that's very unprofessional behaviour. Lucky IAF wasn't there.. or else they would have been history by now.

the_380 · Member

i thinks those people were celebrating April Fools Day

vivekman · Member

Jokes apart, this is a serious incident. Even if the pilots were trying to act smart and pull off a joke, it could have had major effects had an untoward incident taken place. One must really commend the Delhi area control room for their alertness and prompt directions to the plane to land at BOM. It's not that IAF wasn't there. If the pilots had not complied with the ATC's instructions, IAF fighters would have surely been scrambled and forced the plane to land. They really are a dumb crew if they tried to play a prank.

I remember one such incident a few years ago when IAF fighters had actually been deployed and forced a rogue plane to land at BOM. Does anybody have details of this incident?

the_380 wrote:

i thinks those people were celebrating April Fools Day

vivekman · Member

OK, here is the link to the incident that I was referring to, which happened on February 03, 2003.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/2003/02/04/stories/2003020405290100.htm

Mumbai Feb. 3. In the second intrusion by a foreign plane in three days, a private American Boeing 757 on a flight from Karachi to Male was grounded here today after it was found overflying Indian airspace without permission.

karatecatman · Member

But another more serious thing is happening.

Ever since Indo-American ties are looking up, America has been taking little liberties.

To get to Afghanistan from the Diego Garcia Base in the Indian Ocean, American military aircraft now regularly intrude into Indian airspace.

Recently, an Air India A310 (Mumbai to Hyderabad) narrowly missed an American aircraft (unidentified) but for timely TCAS on the A310. It is quite a regular feature near Mumbai airspace as the Americans generally get in over Karnataka and then carry on till Gujarat.

Indain commercial pilots say this is a regular menace, but can;t really complain.

Aseem · Member

I am sure these pilots are dumb-ass americans .

must of thought they can get away by saying US Army in this part of the world.

cheers!!

VT-ASJ

vivekman · Member

I hope our CISF and DGCA folks teach these guys a lesson or two. That should be enough to deter them from using the "Army" word for the rest of their lives!

Aseem wrote:

I am sure these pilots are dumb-ass americans . must of thought they can get away by saying US Army in this part of the world.

cheers!!

VT-ASJ

karatecatman · Member

www.uninews.com

’Atlas Air’ Cargo Plane Detained at Mumbai

New Delhi, July 31 (UNI) A ‘‘suspicious’’ plane was forced to land at Mumbai’s Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport (CSIA) early this morning following its illegal entry into Indian air space after having filed ‘‘dubious’’ Air Operations Routine (AOR) about its itinerary.

Indian Air Force Spokesperson here Wing Commander Sanjeev Sharma said a Boeing-747 cargo plane -- reportedly owned by the Atlas Cargo Company of the United States and claiming to be flying between Nairobi and Hong Kong -- was ordered to land at Mumbai during the night after doubts were raised about its antecedents.

The permission to fly within Indian air space enroute was denied by the IAF South Western Air Command (SWAC) as initially the aircraft had filed its flight AOR as an US Air Force plane.

‘‘Since no Air Operations Routine (AOR) was available for this aircraft or any other military aircraft flying this route from July 27 to August 1, the Mumbai Movement Liaision Unit (MLU) was advised to inform the aircraft through Mumbai Flight Information Centre (FIC) that it was not permitted to enter Indian airspace,’’ Wg Cdr Sharma said.

‘‘Mumbai MLU had called the Indian Air Force at 2205Hrs last night to confirm clearance for ’a United States Air Force Boeing-747 aircraft flying from Nairobi to Hong Kong’ and entering Indian airspace at ORLID (reporting point) at 0047Hrs IST....

‘‘At 2300Hrs, Mumbai MLU called IAF SWAC to inform that the aircraft was now coming as a civil registered aircraft operated by Atlas Air and had obtained clearance from the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA)... the MLU also asked for Operations Room advice....’’

The SWAC Duty Officer told Mumbai MLU to follow the Standard Operating Procedure (SOP). ‘‘Consequently, this morning at 0055Hrs, Duty Officer South Western Air Command called Mumbai MLU to inform that he was refusing clearance to this aircraft due to the suspicious change in aircraft particulars from military to civil.

‘‘At 0210Hrs, he informed that the aircraft was being asked to land at Mumbai to verify its antecedents. He was then advised to keep the Operations Room informed on the status of the aircraft after it lands,’’ Wg Cdr Sharma said.

The aircraft landed at Mumbai’s CSIA at 0303Hrs and was checked by Duty Officer Mumbai MLU who confirmed that it was a civil registered aircraft and the pilot had stated that there was ‘‘a mix up’’ by Nairobi Air Traffic Control (ATC) in forwarding the aircraft particulars, the IAF spokesperson said.

The plane, which carried no cargo, had a four-member crew onboard -- all were now being questioned by the authorities for giving an incorrect identity code to the Air Traffic Control. Airports Authority of India (AAI) officials, too, were investigating.

The aircraft was still at Mumbai and was yet to file a further Flight Plan.

The plane is still on the grounded according to CNN-IBN

HAWK21M · Member

It appears to be a Communications Error.

regds

MEL

karatecatman · Member

www.uninews.com

Atlas Air’s cargo plane leaves after 36 hr of detention

Mumbai, Aug 1 (UNI)

The cargo plane belonging to US-based Atlas Air, which was detained at the Chhatrapati Shivaji international airport here since 0300 hr yesterday, left for its destination at 1530 hr today, after nearly 36 hours.
The cargo plane left for its destination after a thorough check-up and investigation, and clearance given by the concerned officials, airport Director R Treasurywala told UNI.
The Boeing 747-200 was detained yesterday early morning following its illegal entry into Indian air space, after having filed ‘‘dubious’’ Air Operations Routine (AOR) of its itinerary.
The plane, which took off from Nairobi and was bound for Hong Kong, was carrying no cargo. The plane’s identity code was GTI-8106, but the pilot filed its flight AOR as a US Air Force plane.
Therefore, the IAF South Western Air Command (SWAC) denied it the permission to fly within Indian air space enroute. The IAF personnel have already questioned the four-member crew and would decide about the plane’s departure later, he added.

JumboJet · Member

Some mela it was, when it was here

Nimish · Member

JumboJet wrote:

Some mela it was, when it was here

What were the details on the mela? Did the 4 crew have to pay to get out

Aseem · Member

JumboJet wrote:

Some mela it was, when it was here

I am sure it must have been a flop show, its just that we Indians have a habit of gathering around something.

rgds

VT-ASJ

JumboJet · Member

As usual after the plane landed, the guys were all around as if OBL was on board......or someone more dearer.....

A strip search revealed nothing, but yes embarassment and emblishment was caused to us.

So to make sure that we suspected............the a/c was grounded and kept at bay 56 till we deemed fit.

Some aviation security we have guys....sometimes i just feel like :sigh:

malik · Member

Well, as long as the message is out on the airwaves that unauthorised over-flying of India will cost the perpetuators, this episode did it the best way.

And for those who know, this business of unauthorised over-flying was reaching, ahem, new heights.

For example, some airplanes overflying the capital of a neighbouring country at 67000 feet and leaving a signature, so maybe we needed to prevent a return gift?

The Atlas Air episode was, in one short word, good.

JumboJet · Member

malik wrote:

Well, as long as the message is out on the airwaves that unauthorised over-flying of India will cost the perpetuators, this episode did it the best way.

And for those who know, this business of unauthorised over-flying was reaching, ahem, new heights.

For example, some airplanes overflying the capital of a neighbouring country at 67000 feet and leaving a signature, so maybe we needed to prevent a return gift?

The Atlas Air episode was, in one short word, good.

I agree to your statement of that the episode was in short : GOOD.......

But did you know that our air space is regularly breached by Americans who fly from Deigo Garcia and on to Pakistan or to Afghanistan by entering India from Karnataka and then on to Gujarat......

Any ATC fellow would confirm this.....Mumbai Based Arun u listening