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http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=134651


Indian Airlines pilots’ purse swells 45% 
 
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Posted online: Thursday, July 20, 2006 at 0016 hours IST
 
       
 
 
NEW DELHI, JULY 19:  Indian Airlines has hiked the salaries of its 600-odd pilots by 45%, matching it with those offered by its private sector rivals. The increase will mean an additional expenditure of Rs 50 crore a year for the airline. IA has also simultaneously extracted a commitment from its pilots to make an additional stopover on any route, giving the carrier the flexibility to tap more sectors and carry more passengers.
Vishwapati Trivedi, chairman, IA, told FE, it was for the first time in the 53-year history of the state-owned carrier that pilots had agreed to make four landings while on a flight. “This opens up new sectors and will make good the additional outgo,” he said.



 
At present, senior pilots in IA get Rs 3 lakh a month as pay, while entry-level pilots earn about Rs 90,000. After the hike, their salaries will be Rs 4.35 lakh and Rs 1.3 lakh, respectively. The hike will bridge the gap in the salary structure for IA’s junior pilots (private airlines pay about Rs 1.25 lakh a month) and also make the package more attractive for its senior pilots.


Under a ‘productivity-linked settlement’ between Indian Commercial Pilots’ Association (ICPA) and IA, pilots have agreed for a “fourth landing” while on a flight and duty time limitation (FDTL). FDTL, the total number of flying hours of a pilot in a day, while will be extended to both domestic as well as international flights.


The new settlement will enable IA to plan long-haul international flights. At present, the pilots make three landings in a day. Trivedi said, this would allow IA to further penetrate the market and boost its revenue.


The stopovers will allow the airline to gain more market share in the smaller cities where low-cost carriers and other private airlines are doing brisk business.
 



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this was long coming..... there was a lot of talk for a long time between the management and the pilot body

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This is good for both IC and for the pilots. IC has to get it's crew happy, given their upcoming deliveries of the 320 family!

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Dont ask where frm but let me tel ya guys that in IC its only pilots who dominate a "power" over the management...

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wage inflation is unhealthy for airlines in India, guess these airlines have a plan to counter this. There is this fear of lowering minimum qualification standards too. I hope there is a improvement in the quality of trainee crew. During the late 80s as a student pilot in nagpur one would meet only 2 types of student pilots


1) NCC cadets using defense credits to fly, more or less these guys were qualified in PCM (physics, Chemistry & Maths), pursuing a science stream degree, with plenty of common sense.


2)Rich-rich school drop-out children of politicians, traders and AI / IA capts. One such girl was the daughter of a IA ops director. The flying instructor was always worried about this girl, she managed to complete her flying and secure a job in AI, this is early 90s. Due to closure of the flying school i had to move on and started with AI as a mechanic. Later in the late 90s, one day, while i was in the flt deck of an aircraft at a hub airport in Middle-east doing my paper work as a engineer, had the radio on tower frequency listening to the usual chatter. Suddenly heard the tower going ballastic at an AI Airbus that took-off straight into an on coming cathay B747 freighter, apparently the tower/grd had asked the AI Airbus to hold position till clear for take-off. The AI commander apologiesed on behalf of the Pilot doing the take-off that day, the tower was insistant on knowing the name of the pilot, guess what it was her begs a question, what was the captain doing ? 


Which group did i belong to probably the second, I would count myself as one of the numties but pennyless, i was selling computers to pay for my flying, post a diploma in Mechanical engineering.


www.pprune.org is a global chat room for ops crew, it has a forum on south-asia, its amusing reading some of the posts there, well as the site says it is a rumour network so take it with loads of salt. 



-- Edited by tayara mechanici at 15:10, 2006-07-21

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Guess Less Snags on the PDR this Week.


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Why is it that only AI or IA pilots and commanders take all the flak, i have colleagues who're in Jet who're taking the fat packet and doing a shoddy job as well. There are people who've joined KF in the morning, took an interview with DN in the afternoon and accepted an offer from G8 in the evening. The situation is more severe with 320 commanders than it is with f/o's. 

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Why is it that only AI or IA pilots and commanders take all the flak, i have colleagues who're in Jet who're taking the fat packet and doing a shoddy job as well. There are people who've joined KF in the morning, took an interview with DN in the afternoon and accepted an offer from G8 in the evening. The situation is more severe with 320 commanders than it is with f/o's. 


Hello A3xx, reading one of your earlier posts i presume you are a pilot. If so, can you tell me the avg hrs clocked by pilots in India against their wages i.e. AI Cap Rs7200k / 900hrs or IA f/o Rs2400k / 700hr per annum.


This is to get a jest of the productivity of Indian labour, i know the score on grd.



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tayara, an average commander in IC has over 6500hrs. Most of the 93 pilots have touched command, one of the guys is 28 and he has over 8000hrs. He just got poached by G8 a couple of weeks ago. On an average IC has better aircrafts today than it has ever had. The maintenance has picked up, and the post flight checks are now taken very seriously.


as a commander today, most of us are on cieling between 950-980 hours. Can you tell me one Jet or any other airline capt who're clocking this? The airline is heavily focussed on shift more and more people from the right, so the borderline cases of 3800hrs are being flown like dogs to make sure they cross the magic number and move to the left. Now IC knows this perfectly well that these guys are ripe targets for being poached, but still goes and does this. I have friends in Sahara and Jet who're can move to the left in about 200hrs and the airline is grounding them for the fear of having them poached. In the last ops meeting all commanders have been told to give more flying to the senior f/o's, so while in the past it used to be our discretion to fly, its now unwritten that if we have a senior f/o we let him fly, we do the announcements And my hindi is getting better. "Humara viman dhwani ke gati se pichyasi pratishat ke tezi se ud raha hai" BEAT THAT.


Does this justify the returns in IC? I think it does. Besides, KF has an open 2Cr bank guarantee for 5yrs for commanders. Now that is temptation hard to resist, the airlines have to pay higher to keep the guys from jumping.


Hope this didn't sound very defensive, but on the overall i think IC is a better place to work today than it was 5 yrs ago. Its getting pretty professional, and i can say that having been here since 94.



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Hello Airbus A3xx!


 


 



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namoshkar karatecatman....... YAIEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAWW (that was me trying to take out the sound of the karate kick)

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Namoshkar? A clue to your as they say down here "native place"? West Bengal?


Nice to have a pilot on board.


Looking forward to the "professional" inputs. 


 



-- Edited by karatecatman at 16:16, 2006-07-31

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The airline is heavily focussed on shift more and more people from the right, so the borderline cases of 3800hrs are being flown like dogs to make sure they cross the magic number and move to the left. Now IC knows this perfectly well that these guys are ripe targets for being poached, but still goes and does this. I have friends in Sahara and Jet who're can move to the left in about 200hrs and the airline is grounding them for the fear of having them poached. I think it does. Besides, KF has an open 2Cr bank guarantee for 5yrs for commanders. Now that is temptation hard to resist, the airlines have to pay higher to keep the guys from jumping.


Hope this didn't sound very defensive, but on the overall i think IC is a better place to work today than it was 5 yrs ago. Its getting pretty professional, and i can say that having been here since 94.






Cheers for the reply, a few queries, when you say magic #, is it 6500 or 4000hrs for moving left, and this # is specific to operator not a minimum fig set by DGCA ?


How about the guys grounded in S2 or 9W don't they stand to lose in future too. How do they respond to loss of flying hrs and subsequent seniority within the pool of Indian pilots ?


When you say 2cr Bank g'tee do you mean it is a interest free loan ?


Cheers once again.


 



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