787 to be delayed? - Airliners-India

karatecatman · Member

787 to be delayed?

vivekman · Member

This is expected! These guys are making a widebody airliner using composite materials. Hope they sort out their problems soon.

Atleast Boeing does not have to worry about the potential market for the 787s as opposed to the A380.

karatecatman wrote:
"The worst news: The fuselage section - the big multi-part cylindrical barrel that encompasses the passenger seating area - has failed in company testing. That’s forcing Boeing to make more sections than planned, and to reexamine quality and safety concerns." Forged from carbon-fiber-reinforced plastic, the jet is a symbol of the new Boeing, which "designed the most innovative commercial plane ever, and devised the most sophisticated manufacturing process in history to produce" it.

D-ABTH · Member

naah... its just speculation and market reactions post Airbus goofup.

Beoing has already said that particular fuselage model was an additional test to see if they improved on the earlier techniques and that they had changed a few things and how they made that piece.... so its not a major problem from my point of view..

still early days.

vivekman · Member

Yup, Boeing has almost two years before the scheduled delivery of its first 787 in 2008.

the_380 · Member

May be Boeing had some sympathy for Airbus that they think 'fine even their aircraft is delayed' or maybe some marketing plan to slow down Airbus on its A350/A370 programme

vivekman · Member

Hehe...those poor guys at Airbus must have heaved a sigh of relief on hearing about the possible 787 delay. Why should only they suffer.

That brings another idea into my mind. Have you wondered why the German factory working on the A380 is facing problems??

Simple really.......Everyone's either at the stadia watching the World Cup matches or watching them at the streetside pubs......No one left to work on the Superjumbo

the_380 · Member

well if i the CEO of Airbus and wud have been asked for an explantion for delay i wud have given that

BUT SADLY THE A380 IS MANUFACTURED AT TOULOUSE, FRANCE AND NOT GERMANY!!!

karatecatman · Member

the_380 wrote:

well if i the CEO of Airbus and wud have been asked for an explantion for delay i wud have given that BUT SADLY THE A380 IS MANUFACTURED AT TOULOUSE, FRANCE AND NOT GERMANY!!!

The Airbus A380 is "made" at Hamburg, Germany.

-- Edited by karatecatman at 00:36, 2006-06-21

the_380 · Member

Hamburg plant makes components for A380 and full assembling only for A320 Family aircraft.

vivekman · Member

Thats correct - components for the A380!! And that German factory is currently being blamed for their delays!

Here is an article which talks about this piece of news:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/archive/index.php?t-43652.html

the_380 wrote:
Hamburg plant makes components for A380 and full assembling only for A320 Family aircraft.

karatecatman · Member

Comparison of Boeing 747 and Airbus A380

(Copyright BBC)

After assembly, the Airbus A380 is flown to Hamburg, Germany, to be furnished and painted. This is where the trouble started.

the_380 · Member

On my dad's trip to Hamburg as i have stated earlier with respect to a Dornier flight we visited to Airbus plant, Hamburg . And i saw an IT A320 in-progress will try and upload the pics later as they r in the cell and i have just purchased the software.

I even saw the first A380 there

Not a joke but will upload the pics as early as possible.

karatecatman · Member

Airbus information says:

"During construction, the front and rear sections of the Airbus A380 fuselage are loaded on an Airbus RORO ship, Ville de Bordeaux, in Hamburg in northern Germany, where they are shipped to the United Kingdom. There the huge wings, which are manufactured at Filton in Bristol and Broughton in north Wales. These are transported by barge to Mostyn docks, where the ship adds them to its cargo. In Saint-Nazaire in western France, the ship trades the fuselage sections from Hamburg for larger, assembled sections, some of which include the nose. The ship unloads in Bordeaux. Afterwards, the ship picks up the belly and tail sections by Construcciones Aeronáuticas SA in Cadiz in southern Spain, and delivers them to Bordeaux. Doors were specially made by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited in Bangalore in India.

From there, the A380 parts are transported by barge to Langon, and by road to an assembly hall in Toulouse in France. After assembly, the aircraft are flown to Hamburg to be furnished and painted."

the_380 · Member

So do u mean to say the A380 is made at Germany???

Karan69 · Member

I cant find the link but a FI article had a brilliant article on Boeings 787 testing plans,they plan to use something like 6 aircrafts for the test including 2 GEs and 2 RR engine ones and the other two for fatigue and flight proving tests.

if all goes well we will see her in AI colours in Oct 2008.

Cheers,

Karan