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sri_bom


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Any Idea which of the AI aircrafts are being converted?


 


We have in our fleet eight A310s. Two of these planes are being converted to dedicated freighter aircraft. Once these converted planes join the fleet, we will decide on whether to convert the remaining A310s or not."

With the A310s being able to handle its medium-haul freight requirement,Thulasidas said the airline is now scouting for inducting long-haul freighter aircraft in its fleet. "I have asked my people to look at long-haul freighters. There is a huge scope in this operation," he added.



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not sure about which two A310s are being converted for medium-haul operation,


regarding long haul, my guess would be one of many B743/2s parked in deserts around the world, or maybe DC-10/MD-11s. What else can one think of? Only concern would be the upcoming sound restriction over Europe that would rule out B743/2s, not sure about MD/DCs.


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-- Edited by Aseem at 17:54, 2006-05-16

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A-I to fly with Falcon for cargo
ZEESHAN SHAIKH


INDIAN EXPRESS


Tuesday, June 06, 2006 at 0000 hrs


Cargo deal: In a first, A-I will buy much-needed capacity in freight forwarding company
 
MUMBAI, JUNE 5:In an effort to increase capacity for the booming air cargo business, national carrier Air-India is planning to ink a deal with West Asian freight forwarding company Falcon Group for carrying cargo to destinations in the Gulf and Europe.



This is the first-of-its-kind arrangement between the national carrier and a freight forwarding agency.


‘Cargo movement in the country is growing. However, we have not been able to take benefit of this growing demand due to lack of capacity. In order to offset this, we are in talks with a freight-forwarding company to buy space for 75 tonnes cargo/week on the India-Gulf route and 100 tonnes of cargo/week on the India-Germany route,’’ a senior Air-India official said here today.


The tie-up between Air-India and Falcon Freight Group is likely to be signed in a month’s time. Both the parties had been in negotiations for more than a year as Air-India wanted to start this arrangement in September 2005. Negotiations had, however, broken down on the issue of space-leasing charges.


The move by A-I to use the 737-800 aircraft on the Gulf route instead of the A-310 further compounded A-I’s problems as the new aircraft had considerably less belly space and couldn’t carry much cargo. The airline was also facing the same problem on the Germany route after it deployed a 737 variant after taking off its 747-300 combo aircraft.


The airline presently has a 10-11 per cent share in the cargo movement business, which it plans to take up to 15 per cent in the next few years. In FY 2005, the cargo business generated revenues of Rs 500 crore which translates into 8 per cent of its total revenue.


The airline is also planning to start a dedicated freighter service for which it is converting two A-310 aircraft into cargo aircraft. These two aircraft would be remodelled by European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company. However, A-I has received the remodelling slots for next year and the planes would not be available till next year.


The airline is also planning to lease bigger aircraft for its cargo venture for which it had floated tenders. The airline did not receive any response due to non-availability of aircraft. The airline had also initiated talks with other airlines for buying belly space in their aircraft for transporting cargo.


The air freight cargo in India stood at 6.20 lakh tonnes in 2004-05 and experts believe that the figure is all set to increase by 8-10 per cent over the next decade. Even though cargo yields are only one-third of the passenger yields, airlines are gearing up for this new market.



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Wonder what AI is going to do with its old 747-200s! I saw atleast two 742s parked in the Air India hangars without engines! Maintenance? or something else?


- Vivek



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All of the AI's B747-200s are in the process of being scrapped. Last time, I saw only the fwd section of the fuselage of VT-EGB.

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The B742s at AI Hangar are in the process of being scrapped.


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indeed is heartbreaking to see their remains at BOM

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When you say scrapped is it broken down in Bombay to recyle it to aluminum cans or is the aircraft part sent overseas to a special facility? Curious to know, as Alang is the biggest ship breaking industry in India, I am sure we must also start a aircraft breaking facility?

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Air India is known to invite bids to sell off anything they want to. Since it is a government company.. they have to go through the "bid process" for everything and i have seen many an ad selling off whatever they can from the aircrafts to whoever is interested. as for the rest once everything usefull is removed and sold... bids are ivited for the scrapping process.

to my knowledge they dont give it off to any special breakup company... the metal is used by the scrap dealers for whatever purposes they deem fit... not just for cans.

coming to the topic.. the 2 A310s for Freighter conversion are i think

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lets see when they come out of EADS conversion facilities

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Scrap value


June 7, 2006


Agency


Over the next 17 years around 4,000 airliners are expected to be retired, with their material content measured in tens of millions of dollars. With some 200 commercial aircraft reaching the end of their lives every year, storage fields are becoming increasingly crowded, but the huge potential asset value represented by the ranks of retired jets is attracting interest.


With the rising cost of raw materials, attention is turning to the recycle value of the 200 aircraft being retired every year


Aircraft disposal is the subject of two projects led by Airbus and Boeing. The European manufacturer is leading research to develop procedures for the environmentally responsible decommissioning of airliners, while its US rival has formed a coalition to develop industry standards for the disassembly of aircraft, salvaging of parts and recycling of material.


Airbus is leading the European Union’s €4.3 million ($5.4 million) Process for Advanced Management of End of Life of Aircraft (PAMELA) project, which started in March 2005 and ends in October 2007. PAMELA was brought about by the EU’s end-of-life directive, adopted in late 2000, which sets out requirements for disposing of vehicles.


Airbus is leading PAMELA as part of a commitment to taking cradle-to-grave responsibility for its products. Since the first A300B2 entered service 32 years ago, the manufacturer has taken orders for more than 6,000 aircraft from 200 customers, and is now preparing to help dispose of them. “The PAMELA project is a time-limited demonstration that aims to set up innovative and environmentally friendly, safe practices for management of the end-of-life of aircraft, with the objective to recycle 85-95% of the aircraft parts,” says Airbus. Today 60% of an aircraft, essentially its aluminium structure, can be recycled and PAMELA aims to increase that to 95% by 2015.


Introduced by Boeing in late April, the Aircraft Fleet Recycling Association (AFRA) aims to provide owners of aircraft with an integrated fleet management process. “The EU [directive] has not spurred AFRA’s creation; it’s about getting companies to operate more efficiently,” says Bill Carberry, Boeing’s aircraft and composite recycling project manager.


“We want to reclaim composite material and recycle fibres to flow that into high value reuse, not low value,” says Carberry. High value includes the use of recycled carbonfibre for aircraft parts such as tray tables, while low value includes the incorporation of reclaimed fibre in material for road construction.


The PAMELA partners are using a General electric CF6-50C2-powered Airbus A300B2-200, registered TC-FLF, as the test vehicle for disassembling and dismantling. The aircraft entered service in 1982 and accumulated 53,489 flight hours before being retired. Dismantling will involve the removal of materials considered hazardous and polluting, including hydraulic fluid and residual fuel, while disassembling will involve the identification of equipment or parts that are in good condition or can be repaired for reuse. The possibility of the components being reused depends on the type and the age of the aircraft and its related parts, and will be managed according to applicable regulations and standards.


Dismantling operations ARE cutting, sorting and recovery of metals, which will be recycled on the secondary raw materials market or re-integrated into the production cycle. The company has developed processes to separate composite, copper and plastic constituents and to remove electrical wiring insulation.


“The recycling industry is an ever-changing business due to its direct reliance on raw supply and demand of the commodity products it produces,” says Barry Fleet, vice president of marketing and sales for Huron Valley Fritz West. Higher material prices can justify the costs of dismantling and “scrap metal prices are at historical highs and the economists suggest there is room for the prices to increase”, he says. “As the world economy continues to grow, recycling will remain healthy.”


Engine manufacturer Rolls-Royce is in talks to join AFRA, which will launch operations in Chateauroux on 1 June. Boeing’s Carberry expects R-R to be the first of many. “We expect to double our membership in the next year”, he says, adding that Airbus is also eligible to participate.



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Sorry to bring this one up from the dead.... but just as i had reported way back on the 6th of June...

the 2 aircrafts for Freighter conversion at EADS Dresden are indeed

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sometime next year... dont have the date yet

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